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To: Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org> definitions=2020-07-12_08:2020-07-10, 2020-07-12 signatures=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-2004280000 definitions=main-2007120140
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] How to connect skewed beams?
From: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 12:31:32 -0500
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Jim, Iâ??d try to design something heavy like they use in timber framing. If 
you use plate steel rather than sheet metal that would lay on top of the joint 
with sides on both sides of each member that could be through bolted to pinch 
the 2xs between the steel. You might consider welding the nuts in place so you 
donâ??t have to work a wrench in there while assembling. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


On Jul 12, 2020, at 11:49 AM, Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org> wrote:

Hope you're all avoiding the ridiculous heat. I am buidling a deck like the 
rest of the nation, so my tshirt tan will be well developed in a few weeks.

I'm trying to connect two double 2x beams to each other. They meet at about 33 
degrees from parallel. Simpson doesn't have anything that I can find that works 
outside the 45-90 range. Since any fasteners will be near the end of the angled 
beam, I'm hesitant to drive something like Ledger Loks through for fear of 
splitting it. I don't have a way to support it from underneath, it can only 
hang from the main beam with a hanger that clamps over the top, or be face 
connected in shear. The angled beam is 8.5' long so it will have significant 
weight on it if the deck ever sees people. 

The other end of the angled beam isn't built yet, and it will be resting on its 
own post, so I could splay them such that the end in question uses two separate 
single beam connectors, but I come up empty there too except for a bendable 
angle bracket that I won't be able to fasten on the inside angle:

http://embed.widencdn.net/pdf/plus/ssttoolbox/8yq2wqljay/C-C-2019-p284.pdf

The other option is to have them meet at their cut faces over a post, but the 
post is a 4x6 and I don't know if that would be enough purchase to provide 
support. I would have to fasten everything into the post; there is no 
post-to-beam connector for beams meeting at 33 degrees.

thanks,
jim
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