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Scott - You have received good advice.
- Cut the conduit back to a straight section then run new. It might be
helpful to have a compact pipe cutter if you intend to not pull new
wire. Sample cutter:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-101-Tube-Cutter-1-4-in-to-1-1-8-in-40617/100075014
- If not running new wire, take about a foot of conduit out and shift
the location so you have fresh wire. It looks like the insulation is
damaged where the conduit broke.
- Agree with the in-use cover others suggested.
- Agree about having the GFCI protecting the wire too. Put it at an
upstream outlet or as the breaker.
- Agree with the suggestion to use a 4x4 post.
- Suspect the installation was not permitted. Might be good to have an
electrician look at your sub-panel. As an example, if the neutral wires
share a bus bar with the ground wires and panel box, that is likely
wrong. Per my local codes, the only place ground and neutral wires can
share a bus bar is the main panel.
- Make sure the wires are sized for the circuit breaker. 12GA for 20A
and 14GA for 15A.
Brian
On 7/10/2020 11:44 AM, Scott Hall wrote:
> I have this:
>
> https://i.imgur.com/QWy2Ikn.jpg
> https://i.imgur.com/s39fdds.jpg
>
> Happening at the new house. Those rocks surround the pool deck for
> ornamentation, I guess.
>
> Shockingly (or not, heh), those outlets work. I'd like to re-do the
> whole thing to be anchored into the ground and not make me nervous
> every time I look at it.
>
> The pool is about eight feet away. Maybe two feet of that
> rock...'garden' then six feet of concrete decking. Those outlets
> themselves don't appear to be GFCI, though I'd think it was a good
> idea. They have their own sub-panel, on the side of the house maybe
> forty feet away.
>
> I'm completely okay with throwing the breaker and installing a new
> actual outlet, I'm soliciting advice on how to re-do that conduit (can
> you 'splice' conduit so I dig and then do it like I'd do PVC?) and
> anchor the whole thing firmly to the ground. And for specific
> solutions you guys can think of too--I was thinking I could pour a
> concrete 'rock' in the garage with a hole for a gang box and then put
> that where this thing is now, etc.
>
> Thanks guys.
>
> Scott
>
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Scott - You have received good advice.<br>
<br>
- Cut the conduit back to a straight section then run new. It might
be helpful to have a compact pipe cutter if you intend to not pull
new wire. Sample cutter:Â
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-101-Tube-Cutter-1-4-in-to-1-1-8-in-40617/100075014";>https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-101-Tube-Cutter-1-4-in-to-1-1-8-in-40617/100075014</a>
<br>
- If not running new wire, take about a foot of conduit out and
shift the location so you have fresh wire. It looks like the
insulation is damaged where the conduit broke.<br>
- Agree with the in-use cover others suggested.<br>
- Agree about having the GFCI protecting the wire too. Put it at an
upstream outlet or as the breaker.<br>
- Agree with the suggestion to use a 4x4 post.<br>
- Suspect the installation was not permitted. Might be good to have
an electrician look at your sub-panel. As an example, if the
neutral wires share a bus bar with the ground wires and panel box,
that is likely wrong. Per my local codes, the only place ground and
neutral wires can share a bus bar is the main panel.<br>
- Make sure the wires are sized for the circuit breaker. 12GA for
20A and 14GA for 15A. <br>
<br>
Brian<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/10/2020 11:44 AM, Scott Hall
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I have this:
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<div>Happening at the new house. Those rocks surround the pool
deck for ornamentation, I guess. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Shockingly (or not, heh), those outlets work. I'd like to
re-do the whole thing to be anchored into the ground and not
make me nervous every time I look at it.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The pool is about eight feet away. Maybe two feet of that
rock...'garden' then six feet of concrete decking. Those
outlets themselves don't appear to be GFCI, though I'd think
it was a good idea. They have their own sub-panel, on the side
of the house maybe forty feet away.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'm completely okay with throwing the breaker and
installing a new actual outlet, I'm soliciting advice on how
to re-do that conduit (can you 'splice' conduit so I dig and
then do it like I'd do PVC?) and anchor the whole thing firmly
to the ground. And for specific solutions you guys can think
of too--I was thinking I could pour a concrete 'rock' in the
garage with a hole for a gang box and then put that where this
thing is now, etc.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks guys.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Scott</div>
</div>
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