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Just my limited experience with replumbing a house with PEX using the SS
band clamps. They are fine until you start pulling and flexing on the
tubes. They can leak but will seal up once left alone. This might be a
problem in a truck. The issue isn't the bands the issue is the PEX.Â
The clamps are quite similar to crimped clamps used on modern cars.
On 9/9/2019 10:39 PM, john niolon via Shop-talk wrote:
>
> #1 is pex type clamps... either single or double crimp... they work
> for plumbing at higher pressure than radiator hose and I've used them
> for air lines with good success..
> #2 option is using wire clamps from a clamptite tool. this tool is
> easy to fabricate (and not spend 60 bucks) and from what I've seen at
> the car shows they do make a nice tight secure clamp on the hoses...
> using stainless steel wire .062 ..
> so a question for the plumbers/pipefitters that have worked with
> PEX... if I use standard barbed fittings do you think the Pex crimp
> type clamps will hold and be leak proof... this will be in an
> non-accessible place when complete so Iâ??m looking for foolproof.
> Iâ??m looking at the Oeitker clamps since they seem more robust than the
> standard single crimp Home Depot variety
> oetiker link
> <https://www.oetiker.com/en/Products/Clamps-and-rings/Ear-Clamps>
> the other option is the Crimptite wire clamps
> clamp tite example
> <https://aircraft-tool.com/shop/detail.aspx?id=CLT01&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1>
> these will also clamp down tightly as you can see by the examples
> online. And, using SS wire should make it even better....
> experience ?? opinion ?? guesses ?? all welcome
> thanks
> john
>
>
> https://jniolon.classicpickup.com/
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Just my limited experience with
replumbing a house with PEX using the SS band clamps. They are
fine until you start pulling and flexing on the tubes. They can
leak but will seal up once left alone. This might be a problem in
a truck. The issue isn't the bands the issue is the PEX. The
clamps are quite similar to crimped clamps used on modern cars.<br>
<br>
On 9/9/2019 10:39 PM, john niolon via Shop-talk wrote:<br>
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text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial"><font color="#222222">#1 is pex type
clamps... either single or double crimp... they work
for plumbing at higher pressure than radiator hose
and I've used them for air lines with good
success..</font></span></font></font></div>
<div><font face="Verdana"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ;
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<div><font size="2"><font face="Verdana"><span
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text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial"><font color="#222222">#2 option is using wire
clamps from a clamptite tool. this tool is easy to
fabricate (and not spend 60 bucks) and from what
I've seen at the car shows they do make a nice tight
secure clamp on the hoses... using stainless steel
wire .062 .</font></span></font><font face="Verdana"><span
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color="#222222">.</font></span></font></font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Verdana" color="#222222"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
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style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
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font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial">so a question for the plumbers/pipefitters that
have worked with PEX... if I use standard barbed
fittings do you think the Pex crimp type clamps will
hold and be leak proof... this will be in an
non-accessible place when complete so Iâ??m looking for
foolproof. </span></font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Verdana" color="#222222"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; COLOR: ;
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<div><font size="2" face="Verdana" color="#222222"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
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font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial">Iâ??m looking at the Oeitker clamps since they
seem more robust than the standard single crimp Home
Depot variety</span></font></div>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
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initial"><a
href="https://www.oetiker.com/en/Products/Clamps-and-rings/Ear-Clamps";
moz-do-not-send="true">oetiker link</a></span></font></div>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
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<div><font size="3" face="Calibri" color="#000000"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
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text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial">the other option is the Crimptite wire
clamps</span></font></div>
<div><font size="3" face="Calibri" color="#000000"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; COLOR: ;
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style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
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initial"><a
href="https://aircraft-tool.com/shop/detail.aspx?id=CLT01&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1";
moz-do-not-send="true">clamp tite
example</a></span></font></div>
<div><font size="3" face="Calibri" color="#000000"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; COLOR: ;
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<div><font size="3" face="Calibri" color="#000000"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; COLOR: ;
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LETTER-SPACING: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial">these will also clamp down tightly as you can
see by the examples online. And, using SS wire should
make it even better....</span></font></div>
<div><font size="3" face="Calibri" color="#000000"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; COLOR: ;
ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important;
LETTER-SPACING: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial"></span></font>Â </div>
<div><font size="3" face="Calibri" color="#000000"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; COLOR: ;
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LETTER-SPACING: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial">experience ?? opinion ?? guesses ?? all
welcome</span></font></div>
<div><font size="3" face="Calibri" color="#000000"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; COLOR: ;
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style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
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text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial">thanks</span></font></div>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
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