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Our home was built new in 2007 and is 100% PEX with crimp rings. Not only
have we not had any issues with the PEX, we survived a hard freeze with no
damage and no leaks. I have never used a shark-bite connector so can't
comment on those, but I am a big fan of PEX now.
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 10:00 AM Pat Horne via Shop-talk <
shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:
> My understanding is that plumbers use the expansion method of termination
> because it is easier, faster & cheaper. They also don=E2=80=99t need to s=
tock the
> crimp rings.
>
> I plumbed my shop w/apartment (4 sinks, 1 shower, 1 tub, 1 washer, 2
> toilets & 2 hose bibs)using PEX & crimp rings. It was cheap & easy. That
> was a year ago & I have no leaks.
>
> In my house I used some shark bite connectors on a copper pipe & it
> started leaking.
>
> My use is just a single point but it worked fine for me. YMMV
>
> peace,
> Pat
>
> Pat Horne
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
>
> On Aug 1, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Jim Juhas via Shop-talk <
> shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I used PEX on my kitchen remodel in 2011. Maybe I didn't know any better
> but I used the crimp rings on hot and cold sides, run to the icemaker, fe=
ed
> to dishwasher. Everything is still intact. Only downside is that PEX unde=
r
> the sink isn't as pretty as copper.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 30, 2019, at 9:35 PM, Jim Stone via Shop-talk <
> shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> > The union in the photograph doesn=E2=80=99t look terrible to me. I=E2=
=80=99ve certainly
> successfully worked with worse. If only to buy you some time, it can=E2=
=80=99t
> hurt to wrap a couple of extra turns of teflon tape around the new fittin=
g
> - or goober it up with pipe dope - and see if it works.
> >
> > That isn=E2=80=99t to say that a re-plumb isn=E2=80=99t in your future.=
The clogged pipe
> looks pretty scary. I haven=E2=80=99t worked much with PEX, but have wat=
ched
> plumbers using it and am pretty impressed. None of the pros seem to use
> crimpers for their connections, and they tell me they don=E2=80=99t trust=
crimped
> connections. They use something like this:
> https://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-2432-22-12-Volt-Propex-Expansion/dp/B004=
8EJX7U/ref=3Dsr_1_1?crid=3D20YNES0KKJ2KB&keywords=3Dmilwaukee+pex+expander+=
tool&qid=3D1564536668&s=3Dhi&sprefix=3DMilwaukee+pex%2Ctools%2C127&sr=3D1-1=
.
> There are manual versions of this for sale, but I am sure this is the way
> to go if you are doing a fair amount of work.
> >
> > I have also been told by professionals that Shark Bite fittings are
> really good. They are expensive if you are doing a lot of work, but a go=
od
> way connecting PEX to other forms of pipe.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >> On Jul 30, 2019, at 9:01 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Shop-talk <
> shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> So I cut out enough sheetrock to get some wrenching room, got the old
> pipes out without too much trouble. I sprayed a few of the joints with
> WD40 a few times, maybe that helped, maybe it didn't.
> >>
> >>
> >> So now the question is can I get the sealing face that rusty old union
> cleaned up enough to get a good seal, or am I going to have to replace it
> too, which might mean tearing into the wall in the next room. Or maybe n=
ot.
> >>
> >> And then, this project has got me thinking. It might be my cue to buy
> a roll of PEX, a cutter and a crimper and start using it to fix this
> problem and the next one on my list, the washing machine. At the moment
> when you select a hot water wash, the machine fills up at a rate of about=
a
> gallon a day. Is it just the fill hose being clogged, or the valve, or t=
he
> pipes feeding it? Fun fun fun!
> >>
> >> mjb.
> >>
> >>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Our home was built new in 2007 and is 100% PEX with crimp =
rings.=C2=A0 Not only have we not had any issues with the PEX, we survived =
a hard freeze with no damage and no leaks.=C2=A0 I have never used a shark-=
bite connector so can't comment on those, but I am a big fan of PEX now=
.<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 10:00 AM Pat Horne via Shop-talk <<a href=3D=
"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net";>shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">My understanding =
is that plumbers use the expansion method of termination because it is easi=
er, faster & cheaper. They also don=E2=80=99t need to stock the crimp r=
ings. <br>
<br>
I plumbed my shop w/apartment (4 sinks, 1 shower, 1 tub, 1 washer, 2 toilet=
s & 2 hose bibs)using PEX & crimp rings. It was cheap & easy. T=
hat was a year ago & I have no leaks. <br>
<br>
In my house I used some shark bite connectors on a copper pipe & it sta=
rted leaking. <br>
<br>
My use is just a single point but it worked fine for me.=C2=A0 YMMV<br>
<br>
peace,<br>
Pat<br>
<br>
Pat Horne <br>
We support Habitat for Humanity<br>
<br>
<br>
On Aug 1, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Jim Juhas via Shop-talk <<a href=3D"mailto:s=
hop-talk@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>>=
wrote:<br>
<br>
I used PEX on my kitchen remodel in 2011. Maybe I didn't know any bette=
r but I used the crimp rings on hot and cold sides, run to the icemaker, fe=
ed to dishwasher. Everything is still intact. Only downside is that PEX und=
er the sink isn't as pretty as copper.<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
> On Jul 30, 2019, at 9:35 PM, Jim Stone via Shop-talk <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:shop-talk@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">shop-talk@autox.team.net</=
a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> The union in the photograph doesn=E2=80=99t look terrible to me.=C2=A0=
I=E2=80=99ve certainly successfully worked with worse.=C2=A0 If only to bu=
y you some time, it can=E2=80=99t hurt to wrap a couple of extra turns of t=
eflon tape around the new fitting - or goober it up with pipe dope - and se=
e if it works.<br>
> <br>
> That isn=E2=80=99t to say that a re-plumb isn=E2=80=99t in your future=
. The clogged pipe looks pretty scary.=C2=A0 I haven=E2=80=99t worked much =
with PEX, but have watched plumbers using it and am pretty impressed.=C2=A0=
None of the pros seem to use crimpers for their connections, and they tell=
me they don=E2=80=99t trust crimped connections.=C2=A0 They use something =
like this: <a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-2432-22-12-Volt-Prop=
ex-Expansion/dp/B0048EJX7U/ref=3Dsr_1_1?crid=3D20YNES0KKJ2KB&keywords=
=3Dmilwaukee+pex+expander+tool&qid=3D1564536668&s=3Dhi&sprefix=
=3DMilwaukee+pex%2Ctools%2C127&sr=3D1-1" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">https://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-2432-22-12-Volt-Propex-Expansion/dp=
/B0048EJX7U/ref=3Dsr_1_1?crid=3D20YNES0KKJ2KB&keywords=3Dmilwaukee+pex+=
expander+tool&qid=3D1564536668&s=3Dhi&sprefix=3DMilwaukee+pex%2=
Ctools%2C127&sr=3D1-1</a>.=C2=A0 There are manual versions of this for =
sale, but I am sure this is the way to go if you are doing a fair amount of=
work. <br>
> <br>
> I have also been told by professionals that Shark Bite fittings are re=
ally good.=C2=A0 They are expensive if you are doing a lot of work, but a g=
ood way connecting PEX to other forms of pipe.<br>
> <br>
> Jim<br>
> <br>
>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 9:01 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Shop-talk <<a =
href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">shop-talk@autox.=
team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> So I cut out enough sheetrock to get some wrenching room, got the =
old pipes out without too much trouble.=C2=A0 I sprayed a few of the joints=
with WD40 a few times, maybe that helped, maybe it didn't.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> So now the question is can I get the sealing face that rusty old u=
nion cleaned up enough to get a good seal, or am I going to have to replace=
it too, which might mean tearing into the wall in the next room.=C2=A0 Or =
maybe not.<br>
>> <br>
>> And then, this project has got me thinking.=C2=A0 It might be my c=
ue to buy a roll of PEX, a cutter and a crimper and start using it to fix t=
his problem and the next one on my list, the washing machine.=C2=A0 At the =
moment when you select a hot water wash, the machine fills up at a rate of =
about a gallon a day.=C2=A0 Is it just the fill hose being clogged, or the =
valve, or the pipes feeding it?=C2=A0 Fun fun fun!<br>
>> <br>
>> mjb.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <20190730_183454.jpg>_______________________________________=
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