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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] installing a gas stove
From: Jim Franklin via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 09:17:29 -0500
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An opposing opinion- I have rebuilt entire houses and cutting round =
holes in a roof is one of the first checks I write. A side vent out a =
wall is easier, if you can do that, but it'll be noisier especially at =
higher CFM.

I super highly recommend a unit that has at least 3 speeds, preferably a =
variable speed rheostat. A low low is great for things that just =
generate a bit of smoke (like slow cooking bacon like I'm doing now) and =
won't suck all the heat from your house. And if you can find the $$ to =
separate the hood from the blower motor and mount that outside, even =
better, but they are pricy.=20

I bought a Frigidaire arched glass unit, 400 CFM, for $300. It sounds =
like a jet engine on low and gets worse from there, and the MR16 lights =
are such a tight fit I can't turn them without a duct tape tab. But hey, =
it looks pretty :-\  Pay attention to the sone rating and spend money =
for quiet. If you're lucky you have a good appliance store that can =
recommend one with the features you're looking for.

Broan/Nutone is a good manufacturer with a large product line. Years ago =
they made a model called the Allure, I had the Allure III, and it was =
great for what it was. A quiet low, acceptable mid, and a "sorry honey" =
high that cleared out the room but with a lot of noise. I also had a =
1100 CFM exterior wall mount that would suck the pots off the stove but =
that was a $2000 Fantech unit.=20

Here in MA anything over 400 CFM requires a makeup air vent to prevent =
sucking combustion fumes back down the chimney.=20

More information than you probably wanted :-)  Good luck!

jim

> On Jan 26, 2019, at 10:59 PM, Scott Hall via Shop-talk =
<shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Tim,
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> It's got to be a local code thing. My house in Illinois had a gas =
stove and its hood did not vent to the outside. So it's not a national =
thing.
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> You might look into DIY-ing the vent. I did mine and it was one of the =
easiest DIY things I've done to the house.=20
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> Scott
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> On Sat, Jan 26, 2019, 9:22 PM Tim . via Shop-talk =
> We are going to get a new stove this year if it frelling kills me. We =
are switching to gas. The current hood vent does not vent to the outside =
(and i bloody hate it). I will have a professional do the gas line =
install.=20
>=20
> My question is, does anyone know if it is mandatory to have a hood =
that vents to the outside when a gas stove/oven is installed? I am in WI =
if that helps. I want to have one that vents to the outside but that =
money does not exist at this time. Nor do I know anyone that I can trust =
to cut a hole in my kitchen wall.=20
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> shop content: the old oven is going into the shop to be used for =
powder coating. It is a pretty decent sized oven for its age.
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charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">An opposing opinion- I have rebuilt entire houses and cutting =
round holes in a roof is one of the first checks I write. A side vent =
out a wall is easier, if you can do that, but it'll be noisier =
especially at higher CFM.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">I super highly recommend a unit that has at least 3 speeds, =
preferably a variable speed rheostat. A low low is great for things that =
just generate a bit of smoke (like slow cooking bacon like I'm doing =
now) and won't suck all the heat from your house. And if you can find =
the $$ to separate the hood from the blower motor and mount that =
outside, even better, but they are pricy.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I bought a Frigidaire arched glass =
unit, 400 CFM, for $300. It sounds like a jet engine on low and gets =
worse from there, and the MR16 lights are such a tight fit I can't turn =
them without a duct tape tab. But hey, it looks pretty :-\ &nbsp;Pay =
attention to the sone rating and spend money for quiet. If you're lucky =
you have a good appliance store that can recommend one with the features =
you're looking for.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Broan/Nutone is a good manufacturer with a large product =
line. Years ago they made a model called the Allure, I had the Allure =
III, and it was great for what it was. A quiet low, acceptable mid, and =
a "sorry honey" high that cleared out the room but with a lot of noise. =
I also had a 1100 CFM exterior wall mount that would suck the pots off =
the stove but that was a $2000 Fantech unit.&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Here in MA anything over =
400 CFM requires a makeup air vent to prevent sucking combustion fumes =
back down the chimney.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">More information than you probably =
wanted :-) &nbsp;Good luck!</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D"">jim</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan 26, 2019, at 10:59 PM, =
Scott Hall via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">Tim,<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">It's got to be a local code thing. My house in =
Illinois had a gas stove and its hood did not vent to the outside. So =
it's not a national thing.</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">You might look into =
DIY-ing the vent. I did mine and it was one of the easiest DIY things =
I've done to the house.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Scott<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">On Sat, Jan 26, 2019, 9:22 PM Tim . via Shop-talk &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a> wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">




<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: =
12pt;" class=3D"">
We are going to get a new stove this year if it frelling kills me. We =
are switching to gas. The current hood vent does not vent to the outside =
(and i bloody hate it). I will have a professional do the gas line =
install.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: =
12pt;" class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: =
12pt;" class=3D"">
My question is, does anyone know if it is mandatory to have a hood that =
vents to the outside when a gas stove/oven is installed? I am in WI if =
that helps. I want to have one that vents to the outside but that money =
does not exist at this time. Nor do I know
 anyone that I can trust to cut a hole in my kitchen wall.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: =
12pt;" class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: =
12pt;" class=3D"">
shop content: the old oven is going into the shop to be used for powder =
coating. It is a pretty decent sized oven for its age.</div></div>
<br class=3D"">
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