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At 10:38 AM 9/20/2018, eric@megageek.com wrote:
>I just wanted to start a little conversation about a question that
bothers me (albeit very little.)
>When someone brings their vehicle to your garage, do you do the
work or do you let them do
>it?
Eric,
Apparently Canada isn't as sue happy as the US. I have always helped people
work on their cars. But about 15 yrs ago, I did some work on the carb. on a
neighbors car. When I was finished, I told her what I'd done, and
that the work was to the fuel system. I also (I guess I made a
mistake) told her that if she smells gas not to keep driving the car,
and call me or have the car towed to as shop.
This lady bearly knew where the key went, and I know she didn't have
any idea she was sitting on a bomb. I guess she's never watch any
action shows on TV or
the movies.
That got me to thinking. If I work on someone's car for free or they give me
some money, and then something happens to the car, what's going to happen?
For example, I work in the brakes, and the engine catches fire, I
change the right
front tire for them, and the left rear wheel falls off while they are
driving. You hear
this kind of thing all the time at the shops.
Well I don't have insurance to cover me as a mechanic. So if they sue me, I
loose everything I have. That doesn't seem like a good return on my
efforts which I gave for free, or they gave me a few dollars for.
So now, I will only HELP people work on their cars. I will supply
the knowledge, education and tools. But they are going to turn the
wrenches. If there's a
problem I'll step in to help. But now if they changed the air filter
and the rear
wheel falls off, they can't sue me. Well they can, but they are
equally or more
culpable then me.
As to knowing what tools will be needed and where they are, I handle
that. I'll give
the a task to start working on, then I'll get the tools they'll need
next. I'm free to
walk around and get the tools for them. Don't have to have
everything laid out
like a surgeon.
Now when they're done, if they give me a couple of bucks, I look at
it as it was for
the class not the work!
John
>Here is the context, due to my garage, everyone I offer to help
>brings their vehicles to me to fix. Once there, I do the work for
>the most part. I enjoy doing it, so it's no big deal.
>
>But a few people commented that they expected to do most if not all
>the work once there.
>
>I understand that they may enjoy working on the cars as well, but
>here is my thought about it...
>
>One, since it's my garage, I know where every tools, part, etc is
>located. I know what I have and don't have. When doing the work, I
>know what equipment I have will work the best for the situation.
>Also, I also know where to put everything back when I'm done.
>
>This is the fastest and most effective way to do the work in my opinion.
>
>I realize that this takes away their ability to learn through first
>hand experience, but I do include them in the work when possible.
>
>So, what is the proper way to handle this? Is it a "home rule"
>thing, or a should I step aside and let them do all the work?
>
>One more thing, if they are doing the work and break something on
>their car that requires a trip to the auto parts store, I now have
>to drive them there (this I don't like.) At least if I break it, I
>don't mind the trip as much.
>
>What's your take?
>
>
>Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
>Tech Viper
>"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a
>rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your
>territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson
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75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887) 77 Spitfire 71 Saab Sonett III
65 Rambler Classic
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<font size=3>At 10:38 AM 9/20/2018, eric@megageek.com wrote:<br><br>
></font><font size=2>I just wanted to start a little conversation
about a question that bothers me (albeit very
little.)</font><font size=3> <br>
></font><font size=2>When someone brings their vehicle to your garage,
do you do the work or do you let them do <br>
</font><font size=3>></font><font size=2>it?</font><font size=3>
<br><br>
Eric,<br><br>
Apparently Canada isn't as sue happy as the US. I have always
helped people <br>
work on their cars. But about 15 yrs ago, I did some work on the
carb. on a <br>
neighbors car. When I was finished, I told her what I'd done, and
that the work was to the fuel system. I also (I guess I made a
mistake) told her that if she smells gas not to keep driving the car, and
call me or have the car towed to as shop.<br><br>
This lady bearly knew where the key went, and I know she didn't have any
idea she was sitting on a bomb. I guess she's never watch any
action shows on TV or <br>
the movies.<br><br>
That got me to thinking. If I work on someone's car for free or
they give me <br>
some money, and then something happens to the car, what's going to
happen?<br>
For example, I work in the brakes, and the engine catches fire, I
change the right <br>
front tire for them, and the left rear wheel falls off while they are
driving. You hear <br>
this kind of thing all the time at the shops.<br><br>
Well I don't have insurance to cover me as a mechanic. So if they
sue me, I <br>
loose everything I have. That doesn't seem like a good return on my
efforts which I gave for free, or they gave me a few dollars
for.<br><br>
So now, I will only HELP people work on their cars. I will supply
the knowledge, education and tools. But they are going to turn the
wrenches. If there's a <br>
problem I'll step in to help. But now if they changed the air
filter and the rear <br>
wheel falls off, they can't sue me. Well they can, but they are
equally or more <br>
culpable then me.<br><br>
As to knowing what tools will be needed and where they are, I handle
that. I'll give<br>
the a task to start working on, then I'll get the tools they'll need
next. I'm free to<br>
walk around and get the tools for them. Don't have to have
everything laid out <br>
like a surgeon.<br><br>
Now when they're done, if they give me a couple of bucks, I look at it as
it was for<br>
the class not the work!<br><br>
John<br><br>
<br><br>
<br>
</font><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><font size=2>Here is the
context, due to my garage, everyone I offer to help brings their vehicles
to me to fix. Once there, I do the work for the most part. I
enjoy doing it, so it's no big deal.</font><font size=3> <br><br>
</font><font size=2>But a few people commented that they expected to do
most if not all the work once there.</font><font size=3> <br><br>
</font><font size=2>I understand that they may enjoy working on the cars
as well, but here is my thought about it...</font><font size=3> <br><br>
</font><font size=2>One, since it's my garage, I know where every tools,
part, etc is located. I know what I have and don't have. When
doing the work, I know what equipment I have will work the best for the
situation.</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2>Also, I also know where to put everything back when
I'm done.</font><font size=3> <br><br>
</font><font size=2>This is the fastest and most effective way to do the
work in my opinion. </font><font size=3><br><br>
</font><font size=2>I realize that this takes away their ability to learn
through first hand experience, but I do include them in the work when
possible.</font><font size=3> <br><br>
</font><font size=2>So, what is the proper way to handle this? Is
it a "home rule" thing, or a should I step aside and let them
do all the work?</font><font size=3> <br><br>
</font><font size=2>One more thing, if they are doing the work and break
something on their car that requires a trip to the auto parts store, I
now have to drive them there (this I don't like.) At least if I
break it, I don't mind the trip as much.</font><font size=3> <br><br>
</font><font size=2>What's your take?</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2><br><br>
Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.<br>
Tech Viper<br>
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a
rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your
territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson </font><font size=3><br>
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<div> 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887)
77 Spitfire 71 Saab Sonett III</div>
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