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Actually, now that I recall, one of the ridge vent ends I saw them entering=
/exiting from was on the north end of my house. I suppose they will use an=
y entrance they can to a nice cozy attic!
BTW, droppings will usually have sparkles from the insect wings.
From: Tim .
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 1:24 PM
To: Gordie Bird; Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling? bat tanget...
Well, WI have something weird going on...ha
The neighbor to the east of us had=C2=A0them coming out at least the north =
side, the neighbor on the west on at least=C2=A0his east side, and I've see=
n them come out three side of my place. too funny.=C2=A0
From: Gordie Bird <mg_garage@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:53 AM
To: Tim .; Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?=20
=C2=A0
Generally you will find bats entering and leaving in the east, south, or so=
utheast of the structure.=C2=A0 Any place I saw them entering my house was =
pretty protected, like a soffit, or the end of a ridge vent that was not se=
aled properly.=C2=A0 Droppings can be noticed on inside or outside.
I got most of my education (and the bat houses that I built) from the Bat C=
onservancy=E2=80=A6 http://www.batcon.org/, as well as the =E2=80=98bat man=
=E2=80=99 that I hired for the exclusion (after I tried unsuccessfully).
=0DBat Conservation International - BCI
www.batcon.org
Austin-based group whose mission is to protect and restore bats and their h=
abitats worldwide. Includes information about education, conservation effor=
ts, articles ...=0D
They are good to have around, just not in the attic!
=C2=A0
Gordie
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
From: Tim .
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:11 AM
To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?
=C2=A0
The timing leans towards bats coming and leaving. If you have enough, as on=
e our neighbors did, you can definitely hear them going in and out.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
"Droppings will be at the entry points"...I sure hope this isn't accurate. =
I have bats in my attic and there are droppings in many places.....places w=
here, if they were getting in and out,=C2=A0water would be as well.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
tim
=C2=A0
From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Gordie Bird=
<mg_garage@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 7:30 PM
To: Jim Franklin; Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?=20
=C2=A0
Sounds like bats to me.=C2=A0 Only need a gap the size of a dime to get in.=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Droppings will be at the entry points.=C2=A0 If it is warm whe=
re you are at, you may be able to see them come or go after dusk or just be=
fore dawn.=20
Since they are protected, you must exclude them rather than kill them.
Took nearly 2 yrs to get them out of my attic.=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0
Good luck,
Gordie
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
From: Jim Franklin
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 6:42 PM
To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?
=C2=A0
I've searched the Internet, but all answers seem to require that I actually=
see evidence, and I don't. It's in the ceiling between floors. No dropping=
s anywhere. I hear little feet like mice skittering across the ceiling, and=
a great big ruckus like two squirrels chasing each other, moving quickly i=
n the 3/4" space created by the strapping between joists and sheetrock.=20
=C2=A0
They are loudly active mostly at night, almost always at 4:30am. Often in t=
he evenings, but sometimes during the day too. However, I haven't heard the=
m in 2 days. Sometimes this happens.
=C2=A0
I cannot find any entry points, so I can't observe how they are getting in.=
A lot of the roof trim is rotted at the ends, but there is no evidence of =
anything in the attic, and I never hear anything in the walls.=20
=C2=A0
In the past, any mice have eventually made it to the basement traps, but no=
t this time.=20
=C2=A0
thanks,
jim
_______________________________________________
=C2=A0
Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
ge@comcast.net
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ss=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Actually, now that I recall, one of =
the ridge vent ends I saw them entering/exiting from was on the north end o=
f my house. =C2=A0I suppose they will use any entrance they can to a nice c=
ozy attic!</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>BTW, droppings will usually have sparkle=
s from the insect wings.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> <=
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r-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal s=
tyle=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun=
_stuff@outlook.com">Tim .</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, April 6, 2016 1:24=
PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:mg_garage@comcast.net";>Gordie Bird</a>;=
<a href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net";>Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><b=
r><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling? bat tanget.=
..</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style=3D'backgrou=
nd:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Well=
, WI have something weird going on...ha<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'ba=
ckground:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black=
'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'=
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>The neighbor to the east of u=
s had them coming out at least the north side, the neighbor on the wes=
t on at least his east side, and I've seen them come out three side of=
my place. too funny. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;=
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D=
'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><img border=
=3D0 width=3D694 height=3D2 style=3D'width:7.2291in;height:.0208in' id=3D"_=
x0000_i1027" src=3D"cid:image003.png@01D19009.19E0BFC0"></span><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3DdivRplyFw=
dMsg><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><b><span style=3D'colo=
r:black'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'color:black'> Gordie Bird <mg_ga=
rage@comcast.net><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:53 AM<br><b=
>To:</b> Tim .; Shop-talk@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Shop-talk]=
What animal is in my ceiling?</span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:=
black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background=
:white'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p></div></div><div><div><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Generally you =
will find bats entering and leaving in the east, south, or southeast of the=
structure. Any place I saw them entering my house was pretty protect=
ed, like a soffit, or the end of a ridge vent that was not sealed properly.=
Droppings can be noticed on inside or outside.<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I got most of my education (and the bat ho=
uses that I built) from the Bat Conservancy=E2=80=A6 <a href=3D"http://www.=
batcon.org/" id=3DLPlnk977100>http://www.batcon.org/</a>, as well as the =
=E2=80=98bat man=E2=80=99 that I hired for the exclusion (after I tried uns=
uccessfully).<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style=3D'margin-bottom:15.0pt;overf=
low:auto' id=3D"LPBorder_GT_14599632878110.955606597700893"><table class=3D=
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eft:none;border-bottom:dotted #C8C8C8 1.0pt;border-right:none'><tr><td widt=
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:table' id=3D"LPImageContainer_14599632878080.2080272010554589"><p class=3D=
MsoNormal style=3D'margin-top:15.0pt;background:white'><a href=3D"http://ww=
w.batcon.org/" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Times New Roman",serif;text-decoration:none'><img border=3D0 width=3D250=
height=3D98 style=3D'width:2.6041in;height:1.0208in' id=3D"_x0000_i1026" s=
rc=3D"http://www.batcon.org/images/logo-big.png"; alt=3D"http://www.batcon.o=
rg/images/logo-big.png"></span></a><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td><td valign=3D=
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0.8473625154159132"><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-top:15.0pt;mso-lin=
e-height-alt:15.75pt'><span style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI=
Light",sans-serif;color:#0078D7'><a href=3D"http://www.batcon.org/"; target=
=3D"_blank">Bat Conservation International - BCI</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><=
/div><div style=3D'margin-top:7.5pt;margin-bottom:12.0pt' id=3D"LPMetadata_=
14599632878100.30921346044306275"><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-top:=
15.0pt;line-height:10.5pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Seg=
oe UI",sans-serif;color:#666666'>www.batcon.org<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div id=3D"LPDescription_14599632878100.7705697643174771"><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal style=3D'margin-top:15.0pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size=
:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#666666'>Austin-based group=
whose mission is to protect and restore bats and their habitats worldwide.=
Includes information about education, conservation efforts, articles ...<o=
:p></o:p></span></p></div></td></tr></table></div><p class=3DMsoNormal styl=
e=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>They are good to have=
around, just not in the attic!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background=
:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;co=
lor:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Gor=
die<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p>=
</span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cal=
ibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'backg=
round:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-ser=
if;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><=
span style=3D'color:black'> </span><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style=
=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><=
p style=3D'background:white'><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family=
:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href=3D"mailto:ti=
ms_datsun_stuff@outlook.com">Tim .</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, April 6, =
2016 9:11 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net";>Shop=
-talk@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is =
in my ceiling?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p style=3D'background:white'><sp=
an style=3D'color:black'> </span><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'=
background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:bla=
ck'>The timing leans towards bats coming and leaving. If you have enough, a=
s one our neighbors did, you can definitely hear them going in and out.&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-f=
amily:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p styl=
e=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;colo=
r:black'>"</span><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"=
,sans-serif;color:black'>Droppings will be at the entry points"...I su=
re hope this isn't accurate. I have bats in my attic and there are dropping=
s in many places.....places where, if they were getting in and out, wa=
ter would be as well. </span><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans=
-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><sp=
an style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p>=
</span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>tim</span><span style=3D'font-f=
amily:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'b=
ackground:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:blac=
k'> </span><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-=
serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p style=3D'background:white'=
><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><img border=
=3D0 width=3D694 height=3D2 style=3D'width:7.2291in;height:.0208in' id=3D"H=
orizontal_x0020_Line_x0020_1" src=3D"cid:image002.png@01D18FF2.9309B6C0" al=
t=3D"cid:image002.png@01D18FF2.9309B6C0"></span><span style=3D'font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><d=
iv id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg><p style=3D'background:white'><b><span style=3D'font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><=
span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black=
'> Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Gordie B=
ird <mg_garage@comcast.net><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 5, 2016 7:=
30 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jim Franklin; Shop-talk@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</=
b> Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?</span><span style=3D'font-=
family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style=3D'font-size:1=
1.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><=
div><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans=
-serif;color:black'> </span><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div>=
<div><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Sounds like bats to me. Only ne=
ed a gap the size of a dime to get in. Droppings will be at the=
entry points. If it is warm where you are at, you may be able to see=
them come or go after dusk or just before dawn. </span><span style=3D'font=
-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D=
'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sa=
ns-serif;color:black'>Since they are protected, you must exclude them rathe=
r than kill them.</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;col=
or:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Took nea=
rly 2 yrs to get them out of my attic. </span><span style=3D'font-fam=
ily:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'bac=
kground:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-s=
erif;color:black'> </span><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-se=
rif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Goo=
d luck,</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>=
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Gordie</span><span s=
tyle=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p=
><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style=3D'font-family:"=
Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'backgrou=
nd:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;=
color:black'> </span><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;c=
olor:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </=
span><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:=
p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style=3D'f=
ont-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=
=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color=
:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:so=
lid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p style=3D'background:white'>=
<b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:b=
lack'>From: </span></b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri=
",sans-serif;color:black'><a href=3D"mailto:jamesf@groupwbench.org";>Jim Fra=
nklin</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, April 5, 2016 6:42 PM<br><b>To: </b><a h=
ref=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net";>Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br><b>=
Subject: </b>[Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?</span><span style=3D=
'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-ser=
if;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><=
span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black=
'>I've searched the Internet, but all answers seem to require that I actual=
ly see evidence, and I don't. It's in the ceiling between floors. No droppi=
ngs anywhere. I hear little feet like mice skittering across the ceiling, a=
nd a great big ruckus like two squirrels chasing each other, moving quickly=
in the 3/4" space created by the strapping between joists and sheetro=
ck. </span><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:1=
1.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span styl=
e=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p=
style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:black'>They are loudly active mostly at night, almo=
st always at 4:30am. Often in the evenings, but sometimes during the day to=
o. However, I haven't heard them in 2 days. Sometimes this happens.</span><=
span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style=3D'font-fa=
mily:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'ba=
ckground:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-=
serif;color:black'>I cannot find any entry points, so I can't observe how t=
hey are getting in. A lot of the roof trim is rotted at the ends, but there=
is no evidence of anything in the attic, and I never hear anything in the =
walls. </span><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>=
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span s=
tyle=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p=
><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>In the past, any mice have eventually mad=
e it to the basement traps, but not this time. </span><span style=3D'font-f=
amily:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'b=
ackground:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans=
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n style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>t=
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