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Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?

To: "Tim ." <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>, "Shop-talk@autox.team.net" <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?
From: Gordie Bird <mg_garage@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 10:53:39 -0400
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Generally you will find bats entering and leaving in the east, south, or so=
utheast of the structure.  Any place I saw them entering my house was prett=
y protected, like a soffit, or the end of a ridge vent that was not sealed =
properly.  Droppings can be noticed on inside or outside.
I got most of my education (and the bat houses that I built) from the Bat C=
onservancy=E2=80=A6 http://www.batcon.org/, as well as the =E2=80=98bat man=
=E2=80=99 that I hired for the exclusion (after I tried unsuccessfully).
They are good to have around, just not in the attic!

Gordie





From: Tim .
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:11 AM
To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?

The timing leans towards bats coming and leaving. If you have enough, as on=
e our neighbors did, you can definitely hear them going in and out.=C2=A0

"Droppings will be at the entry points"...I sure hope this isn't accurate. =
I have bats in my attic and there are droppings in many places.....places w=
here, if they were getting in and out,=C2=A0water would be as well.=C2=A0

tim


From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Gordie Bird=
 <mg_garage@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 7:30 PM
To: Jim Franklin; Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?=20
=C2=A0
Sounds like bats to me.=C2=A0 Only need a gap the size of a dime to get in.=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Droppings will be at the entry points.=C2=A0 If it is warm whe=
re you are at, you may be able to see them come or go after dusk or just be=
fore dawn.=20
Since they are protected, you must exclude them rather than kill them.
Took nearly 2 yrs to get them out of my attic.=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0
Good luck,
Gordie
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
From: Jim Franklin
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 6:42 PM
To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?
=C2=A0
I've searched the Internet, but all answers seem to require that I actually=
 see evidence, and I don't. It's in the ceiling between floors. No dropping=
s anywhere. I hear little feet like mice skittering across the ceiling, and=
 a great big ruckus like two squirrels chasing each other, moving quickly i=
n the 3/4" space created by the strapping between joists and sheetrock.=20
=C2=A0
They are loudly active mostly at night, almost always at 4:30am. Often in t=
he evenings, but sometimes during the day too. However, I haven't heard the=
m in 2 days. Sometimes this happens.
=C2=A0
I cannot find any entry points, so I can't observe how they are getting in.=
 A lot of the roof trim is rotted at the ends, but there is no evidence of =
anything in the attic, and I never hear anything in the walls.=20
=C2=A0
In the past, any mice have eventually made it to the basement traps, but no=
t this time.=20
=C2=A0
thanks,
jim
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ss=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Generally you will find bats enterin=
g and leaving in the east, south, or southeast of the structure.=C2=A0 Any =
place I saw them entering my house was pretty protected, like a soffit, or =
the end of a ridge vent that was not sealed properly.=C2=A0 Droppings can b=
e noticed on inside or outside.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I got most of my ed=
ucation (and the bat houses that I built) from the Bat Conservancy=E2=80=A6=
 <a href=3D"http://www.batcon.org/";>http://www.batcon.org/</a>, as well as =
the =E2=80=98bat man=E2=80=99 that I hired for the exclusion (after I tried=
 unsuccessfully).</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>They are good to have around, jus=
t not in the attic!</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>Gordie</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></p><div style=3D'mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top=
:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stu=
ff@outlook.com">Tim .</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:11 AM<=
br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net";>Shop-talk@autox.t=
eam.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling=
?</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family=
:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p style=3D'backgroun=
d:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>The t=
iming leans towards bats coming and leaving. If you have enough, as one our=
 neighbors did, you can definitely hear them going in and out.&nbsp;<o:p></=
o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p style=3D'back=
ground:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>=
&quot;</span><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-ser=
if;color:black'>Droppings will be at the entry points&quot;...I sure hope t=
his isn't accurate. I have bats in my attic and there are droppings in many=
 places.....places where, if they were getting in and out,&nbsp;water would=
 be as well.&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;co=
lor:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=
=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>tim</span><span style=3D'font-family:"C=
alibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:12=
.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal sty=
le=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><img b=
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p><div id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><=
b><span style=3D'color:black'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'color:black'> =
Shop-talk &lt;shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; on behalf of Gordie Bird=
 &lt;mg_garage@comcast.net&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 5, 2016 7:30 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Jim Franklin; Shop-talk@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?</span><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal styl=
e=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;<=
o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p style=3D'background:white'><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'=
>Sounds like bats to me.&nbsp; Only need a gap the size of a dime to get in=
.&nbsp; &nbsp;Droppings will be at the entry points.&nbsp; If it is warm wh=
ere you are at, you may be able to see them come or go after dusk or just b=
efore dawn. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Since th=
ey are protected, you must exclude them rather than kill them.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Took nearly 2 yrs to get them out=
 of my attic.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>=
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Good luck,<o:p=
></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Gordie<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=
=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"=
,sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background=
:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;co=
lor:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'color=
:black'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style=3D'border:none;bor=
der-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p style=3D'backgrou=
nd:white'><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-ser=
if;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href=3D"mailto:jamesf@groupwbench.or=
g">Jim Franklin</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, April 5, 2016 6:42 PM<br><b>To=
: </b><a href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net";>Shop-talk@autox.team.net<=
/a><br><b>Subject: </b>[Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'color:black'>=
&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-ser=
if;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I've=
 searched the Internet, but all answers seem to require that I actually see=
 evidence, and I don't. It's in the ceiling between floors. No droppings an=
ywhere. I hear little feet like mice skittering across the ceiling, and a g=
reat big ruckus like two squirrels chasing each other, moving quickly in th=
e 3/4&quot; space created by the strapping between joists and sheetrock. <o=
:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>They are loudly active mostly at nig=
ht, almost always at 4:30am. Often in the evenings, but sometimes during th=
e day too. However, I haven't heard them in 2 days. Sometimes this happens.=
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I cannot find any entry points, so=
 I can't observe how they are getting in. A lot of the roof trim is rotted =
at the ends, but there is no evidence of anything in the attic, and I never=
 hear anything in the walls. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:w=
hite'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;colo=
r:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>In th=
e past, any mice have eventually made it to the basement traps, but not thi=
s time. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0=
pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>thanks,<o:p></o:p></span><=
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