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Re: Winches

To: "Steven W. Reilly" <luckyone@sentex.ca>
Subject: Re: Winches
From: David Scheidt <dmschei@attglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 01:40:40 -0500
On May 12, 2004, at 11:45 PM, Steven W. Reilly wrote:

>
> Looking at buying a winch........just not sure about one thing.
>
> Lets say that a winch is rated at "9000lbs single line pull".
>
> Does this mean that the winch  (if so used) would be directly capable 
> of lifting 4.5 tons?
>

Yes.  Some caveats, though.  First, winches are not rated for overhead 
lifting.  So you don't want to do that, generally.

Second, the rated pull is only available on the first wrap of cable 
around the drum.  On the subsequent wraps, pulling power is markedly 
reduced.  So if you've got 100' of cable on it, and only pull out 10, 
you'll only have 2/3 or so of the rated power.  (Good winches provide 
the numbers as part of the specs.)  This can be a real bummer.  For 
self-recovery, you generally want as long a cable as possible, as 
whatever you want to attach to is always 3 feet farther away than your 
cable can reach.  Except when you're really, really stuck, and the 
anchor is 15 feet away, and you can't pull yourself out without needing 
a snatch block or three.  So, if you're buying a winch for 
self-recovery, or other off-road use, big long cables are good.  If, on 
the other hand, your putting a winch on tailer to haul cars on and off, 
or launch boats or something like that, then you need to consider how 
long a pull you're going to do, and how close the load you're puling is 
to the rating of the winch.  If you look at most flatbed tow trucks, 
they've only got about 50 feet of cable on their winches, even if the 
drum will hold 150'.  It's really, really embarrassing not to be able 
to get a car on the deck.  Pulling a smashed one-ton truck onto the 
deck might well take close to the rated pull of winch, and a full drum 
wouldn't manage.  Since they're not usually used for serious "wow, how 
did you get a car *there*?!" recoveries, that's okay.  An extension 
wire rope can be used if you need a longer pull on occasion, though 
that does mean the load has to be re-rigged mid-pull.

Third, ratings lie, and duty cycles suck on most electric winches. 






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