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Re: Gate openrs

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Subject: Re: Gate openrs
From: Mike Sloane <msloane@att.net>
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 06:54:11 -0500
Adapting a chain type garage door opener to your type of gate would be a 
fairly straightforward operation; farmers do it all the time to avoid 
getting on and off tractors while moving feed etc. in and out of cattle 
lots. They are set up with lugs on the chain that hit limit switches for 
end of travel. The chains are not continuous, since they only have to 
run one cycle of about 7', but I am sure that they use standard link 
chain that you would buy at MSC or Grainger. Since your gate is wider 
than 7', you would need to lengthen the strut supporting the pulleys, 
but that is just a matter of finding some similar scrap steel and 
bolting/welding it up and adding sufficient chain in the middle of the 
existing chain. Because of the additional length of the boom/strut, you 
might want to support it mid span. The only problem I see is 
weatherproofing the housing, as they are, of course, intended for inside 
use. The release mechanism is a pull rope that disconnects the follower 
from the chain. There are also photocell devices in all modern openers 
which are supposed to prevent the door from closing when objects are 
blocking the path. They would have to be dealt with somehow, but 
probably with a little ingenuity.

I would imagine that a screw type (Genie) opener would also work, but 
you would have to purchase another screw and weld it on to the original 
to get the additional length. That would be a more elegant solution, but 
might require more sophisticated machining than the chain drive approach.

Mike

Bob Nogueira wrote:
> Folks,
> Need to run an idea by you and see if it flies;
> 
> About two years ago I installed a gate on my driveway. Its a slider with a
> metal track that crosses  over the drive and metal wheels on the gate. It has
> a 16 foot opening.
> The electric openers for this type of gate use a chain attached to both ends
> of the gate and a drive motor with a sprocket that sits inside the gate. When
> the sprocket is turned via the motor. it pulls the chain and opens or closes
> the gate depending on which direction the motor is running  The problem is
> these opener are rather pricey at 800 to 1200 dollars.
> 
> While at Sam's last week I saw a electric garage door opener (1/2 hp) on sale
> for 135.00.
> The thing that caught my attention was that it was a chain operated opener.
> The wheels started turning and what I've come up with is the idea of buying
> the opener and building a case which would allow me to convert it to open the
> gate.  I'd have to mount it vertically and install a couple of idler
> sprockets.
> 1. What I'm not sure of is how these chain driven garage door openers know
> when to stop or how they reverse ( does the chain simply loop thus the motor
> always runs in one direction or does the chain and motor actually reverse
> direction?).
> 2. Are the chains used in this type application standard chains or one of a
> kind ?
> 3. How do chain openers deal with disconnecting the door from the opener for
> manual operation?
> As always thanks for any advise .
> Bob Nogueira


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