Thanks Gary - received our shop manual yesterday, looked for info on the horn
in the electrical section and didn't see it. Found it today in the steering
gear section.
The diagram doesn't show horn button related parts, so just want to tell you
what I've got to make sure I'm not missing anything....
Attached to the horn button itself is a sort of cup with a springy thing on it
(sorry, don't know the real names of these parts). Attached to the springy
thing is the teflon? part you were talking about with three round studs on it.
Press fit to the studs is a flat washer like plate with three round holes in it
and a square hole.
Now, if I remove the steering wheel, there is a large spring underneath on the
steering shaft, that rides on the mast bearing.
My question is, the flat washer like plate with the three round holes and the
square hole - is this where you say there is a wire soldered to (the square
hole?) If so, it looks like the wire would go through a hole in the steering
wheel, but where does it attach - to the spring?
Or am I waaaaay off base here?
Thanks and sorry to ask such elementary questions, but I'm a visual learner and
have no real live examples to look at.
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Perry [mailto:glperry@fwi.com]
Sent: Tue 7/1/2003 11:05 PM
To: Parkinson, Rob; Bruce Kettunen; oletrucks@autox.team.net
Cc:
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Ammeter question - now a horn question.
Rob, you really need to buy a shop manual! All this stuff is in it, IF
you
look and read it. An Assembly Manual is nice for drawings of how it goes
together too.
First, the wire in column goes up to the top bearing in mast. If you
look
at it, you'll notice it's brassy color and smooth around col diameter.
The
wheel has a soldered wire with a spring on it, and a graphite or ? item
on
lower end that rides around on that brassy color strip when you turn
wheel.
It slips in a hole in steering wheel and touches the flat metal plate
under
horn button. There is a spring in there too, to hold the button up.
When you
press button, it shorts on steering shaft or column or somewhere and a
circuit is made thru the slider on wire to mast bearing, to wire, out to
relay. Many times the wires get cut where they go out the side of column
under dash to wireing or some go out steering box shaft at bottom of
column.
You can buy new ones of these from vendors. Venders are listed at
www.stovebolt.com site and there is a Forum there also. Get some
manuals!
About $25 most places. Fun to read also.
G. L. Grumpy's
Old Iron Ranch
Huntington, IN 46750
AD trucks and MM tractors
----- Original Message -----
From: "Parkinson, Rob" <Rob_Parkinson@jdedwards.com>
To: "Bruce Kettunen" <bekett@uslink.net>; <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 10:27 PM
Subject: RE: [oletrucks] Ammeter question - now a horn question.
> Thanks to all who responded to my ammeter question - I got some great
answers and hope to hook everything up this weekend.
> I do have one other question. The horn. There's a wire which exits the
steering column and goes to the horn relay. What happens to it after it
enters the steering column?
> I have removed the steering wheel and see no evidence of it. It seems
there would be no way for it to get by the steering wheel bearing
anyway -
pretty tight fit. I was thinking it maybe came right up through the
center
shaft, but there's no hole. The horn button shows evidence of a solder
where
I would think the wire would have to come, but.........
> Hornless in Denver - any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks, Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Kettunen [mailto:bekett@uslink.net]
> Sent: Tue 7/1/2003 8:07 AM
> To: oletrucks@autox.team.net
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Ammeter question
>
>
>
> Battery+--->Ammeter----->Headlight bulb------->Battery-
>
> A center zero ammeter like our trucks have will work either way.
> With the headlight on it should twitch to one side or the other.
> Hook up the leads on the ammeter so that it shows discharge when
> the headlight is on. This is the polarity you need.
>
> As to the positive ground, others are more expert on this but I
believe
> some AD and early TF GMC's had positive ground.
>
> Bruce K
> 57 3200
> Mt. Iron, MN
>
> At Monday, 30 June 2003, you wrote:
>
> >Hi - What is the easiest way to determine which is the positive
> terminal
> >for the ammeter?
> >It is currently not hooked up at all, and there are no markings.
> >The vehicle is a 12 volt converted '51 Chevy 3100.
> >Also, were these trucks always negative ground?
> >Thanks in advance, Rob
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