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RE: [oletrucks] [OFFTOPIC] 1967 Dodge Starting

To: "Dane Bruce" <nochay@earthlink.net>,
Subject: RE: [oletrucks] [OFFTOPIC] 1967 Dodge Starting
From: "Hanlon, Bill (ISS Houston)" <Bill.Hanlon@hp.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:08:52 -0600
One thing that causes this kind of symptom is a bad "run" ignition circuit.  
When the key is in the "start" position the coil gets 12 volt power.  When you 
release the key and it returns to the "run" position the coil gets it's power 
from a different circuit that goes through what is usually referred to as a 
"ballast" resistor.

Troubleshoot for this problem like this:

1.      Remove distributor cap, leaving low voltage wire from coil to 
distributor points attached as usual.

2.      Turn engine over and stop with points closed.

3.      Turn key to "run" (not "start") position.

4.      Read voltage on coil primary (screw on) terminal that does NOT connect 
to points.
                Voltage should be around 6 volts DC.    

5.      If #4 measures 12 volts DC, the points are not closed (or are bad).  
Fix this, then start 
                over.

6.      If #4 measures below 4 volts DC the "run" circuit is bad.  Typical 
causes are:
                a.      bad ballast resistor.  
                        It is typically mounted on the firewall.
                        Measure the voltage on both sides.  If one side is 12 
volts DC
                                and the other is less than 4 volts jump across 
it with a 
                                12 gauge wire and start the car.  If all seems 
OK replace the 
                                ballast resistor.
                b.      bad ignition switch "run" position.  If both sides of 
the ballast 
                                resistor read low, there is not enough (or any) 
power getting 
                                to the ballast resistor.  Run a piece of 12 
gauge wire from the 
                                battery positive to either side of the ballast 
resistor.  
                                Start the car.  If all is now well turn off the 
car (you'll 
                                have to remove the wire to the battery to get 
it to stop) 
                                and connect the end of the wire that you just 
removed from 
                                the battery to the "run" lug on your ignition 
switch.  
                                Start the car again.  If all is well fix the 
bad wiring from 
                                the "run" lug to the ballast resistor.  If it 
didn't start 
                                replace the bad ignition switch.

7.      It is theoretically possible that the coil is the problem.  It could 
work OK with 
        the higher 12volts available in the "start" position, but not work in 
with the 
        6 volts available in the "run" position, but if I were a betting man 
I'd start with 
        the ballast resistor.









-----Original Message-----
From: Dane Bruce [mailto:nochay@earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 11:54 AM
To: Phil Skinner; OLETrucks; Edselmail; Calnevas
Subject: [oletrucks] [OFFTOPIC] 1967 Dodge Starting Problem[/OFFTOPIC]


Hey Guys/Gals,

I know it's off topic, being a dodge, but...

We are trying to move my mom's 1967 dodge polara convertible. The engine
starts, runs for .02 seconds, then dies. Also, the car won't budge in
neutral. The car will not move with the transmission in neutral. The tranny
does work, because the neutral safety switch kicks in. It also won't start
in reverse. Does anyone know what causes this? Why does the engine start,
run for .02 seconds, then die? Your help is much sought after!!!!

Thanks,

Dane (Why I own fords! :) )
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