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Re: [oletrucks] IFS swap from '72-'87 Chev

To: David <David@gardener.com>, "Dennis O'Connor" <boyoconnor@netscape.net>,
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] IFS swap from '72-'87 Chev
From: Byron Schluter <b_schluter@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:53:13 -0700 (PDT)
Hey All,

I've been following some of the ifs stuff and am
interested in the 72-87 1/2 ton swap.  I hear a lot of
you saying that the track width is wider than stock. 
I wonder if the modified control arms offered by Fat
Mans would solve the problem?  Food for thought.

Byron
--- David <David@gardener.com> wrote:
> Dennis,
> 
> This is an interesting write up.
> 
> Do you have any pictures on the net?
> 
> I would also appreciate receiving any information
> you are willing to share.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> David
> 
> 1954 3100 5 Window
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis O'Connor" <boyoconnor@netscape.net>
> To: <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:58 AM
> Subject: [oletrucks] IFS swap from '72-'87 Chev
> 
> 
> > I've already sent Kevin the info about this swap,
> and didn't post here
> 'cause
> > it was getting a little IFS saturated...but since
> you asked...  :)
> >
> > Yes, I'm doing this swap for my Advance Design
> truck right now.  Any IFS
> from
> > a '72-'87 Chevy/GMC 1/2 ton donor (C-10 or
> Suburban) will work, but not
> from
> > 4WD (K-10).  As an extra bonus, the C-20 IFS fit
> onto my 3600 frame and
> has
> > the same 8-bolt spacing so all wheels are the same
> size.
> >
> > Downside #1: The track width is about 4" wider
> than stock.  This clears
> the
> > fenders fine, but looks a little funny.  You can
> swap the rear axle too,
> but
> > my solution will probably be to get rear wheels
> with 1" offset and 1"
> extra
> > width.
> >
> > Downside #2: The C-10 swap is the 5-bolt spacing. 
> I'm sure there's a
> 6-bolt
> > fix out there by swapping spindles, but I haven't
> done my 3100 yet so I
> > haven't looked into it yet.  I'd like to avoid 2
> spare tires!
> >
> > Downside #3: You need to upgrade your MC and brake
> lines.  OK, so that's
> > actually an upside, but don't forget to factor
> that cost into the project.
> > The C-10 has a nice MC but I've found its booster
> is huge - but the small
> > Blazers and S-10s seem to have a smaller booster
> which mates up to it.  Or
> you
> > can get one of the kits from the usual places.
> >
> > Ride height is near stock, or worst case you'll
> need to cut a coil to
> correct
> > it.  You need to make spacers between the frame
> and the IFS, a bracket to
> > mount the power steering box, and shock mounts. 
> You'll also need to
> cobble
> > together the steering column, which I'm planning
> to do the same as the
> Pacer
> > IFS swap.  I got all my parts out of a Pick-n-Pull
> junkyard for $115, but
> > flirting with the checkout girl might've helped
> drive the price down.  ;)
> >
> > I have been working with 2 other guys who have
> done this swap to write
> > everything down and make a web page out of it. 
> I'll be finishing it up in
> the
> > next month, but feel free to write me if you want
> the rough details now.
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -Boyo (boyoconnor@netscape.net)
> >
> >
> > Brad Newman wrote:
> > > I haven't tried it myself, but at a local truck
> show this past
> > > weekend I saw at least 3 different AD trucks
> with 73-87 GM 1/2 ton
> > > front clips in them.
> > > These trucks sat at almost the exact height as
> my stock 49, and
> > > without the owners pointing it out in
> conversation I probably never
> > > would have noticed that they weren't stock. The
> guys that I talked
> > > to said that these clips will slide up into the
> existing AD frame,
> > > and only require a couple of spacers. Again, I
> haven't tried it
> > > myself, but the thought of having 11" disc
> brakes, power steering and
> > > an IFS sure is tempting. I'm heading out
> tomorrow to look for donors
> > > to experiment with.
> > > Anybody else tried this? Boyo?
> >
> >
>
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