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To: "Whittaker Bill G Civ ASC/SMY" <Bill.Whittaker@wpafb.af.mil>,
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] IFS brand recommendation
From: "Don Simmons" <tasimmons@cbnn.net>
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:51:24 -0700
Before you start making negative statements about suspension that you know
nothing about, why don't you take the time to check it out first?  I'm not
starting a mustang II war, I'm just informing people that there are
alternatives to it! I've seen his catalog and read what he has to say and
this is not some amateur little shop. What ticks me off is someone who
writes something off without any knowledge of it whatsoever! And I'll tell
you what-I'd rather buy something from someone who answers their own phone,
than wait on hold with some big outfit to find out why my parts don't
fit!!!! Thanks,
Don Simmons
----- Original Message -----
From: "Whittaker Bill G Civ ASC/SMY" <Bill.Whittaker@wpafb.af.mil>
To: "'Don Simmons'" <tasimmons@cbnn.net>; "joe" <chevy1@jps.net>; "BelAir
Bob" <rogerz@planetwide.com>; "oletrucks" <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 5:39 AM
Subject: RE: [oletrucks] IFS brand recommendation


> Not to argue the point but Mr. Meyer makes an interesting statement.
Let's see, why would I want a front suspension capable of carrying more
weight than I'm going to put on it, that's been tried and proven over years
of on the road service, who's parts are available almost anywhere, that was
designed and put together by a multitude of engineers capitalizing on
millions of dollars and years of research at one of the biggest auto
manufacturers in the world, when I can get one from some guy who says his
design is right for my vehicle.  Hmmmmmmm..... I'll have to think about that
a while.
>
> One of the problems we face in this hobby is that there are a lot, and I
mean a LOT of people out there trying to capitalize on the popularity of IFS
systems for street and hot rods.  Unfortunately many don't have the
experience or engineering background to guarantee their product is safe and
will actually perform as advertised.  This is particularly true when
selecting a Mustang II system.  Just open any of the street rod mags and the
pages are full of little one or two man shops offering a "better" Mustang II
suspension. There's even a couple making bolt on systems for people that are
either too cheap to hire a professional welder or to lazy to learn how to
weld themselves.  I know there are several people who will argue that with a
lot of these old cars and trucks the original system was bolted on, but in
most cases that's not completely true.  The original IFS on my 41 Chevy
Coupe was bolted and riveted on, and they used some very stout rivets.  I
know because I had to g!
> rind and drill them all out.  Bolt on systems, no matter how well they are
designed, are dangerous unless permanently welded in position.
>
> I'm not saying that Mr. Meyer makes an inferior product, it may be
excellent for all I know, but common sense tells me that most small
companies don't have the capability or resources to properly design and test
a "new" suspension system.   One of the valuable lessons I've learned over
the years is that when it comes to suspension, brakes, and steering,
compromising on quality or experimenting with unproven designs can kill you
or even worse, someone else.
>
> Bill Whittaker
> '53 3100 Hemi
> Built like a Rock
> With Mopar Stock
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Simmons [mailto:tasimmons@cbnn.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 11:32 PM
> To: joe; BelAir Bob; oletrucks
> Subject: Re: [oletrucks] IFS brand recommendation
>
>
> Have you heard of Jim Meyer Racing Products of Lincoln City,Oregon? He
makes
> a crossmember that uses GM spindles-brakes-ball joints. His claim is that
> you get the correct design for your car or truck,not the geometry for
Fords
> cheapest car in 1974. (DISCLAIMER)This is not an endorsement of his
products
> or ideas. But if you are interested,his phone # is 1-800-824-1752 ext. 2.
He
> says he personally handles all phone inquiries and makes kits for
1933-1959
> Chevy trucks. I have his catalog and everything looks pretty good and
seems
> competitively priced. You might want to check him out!
> Don Simmons
> 1953 3100
> 1962 C10 etc
> and sad to say former owner of 1957 Chevy station wagon(I just sold it)
> Othello,Washington
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "joe" <chevy1@jps.net>
> To: "BelAir Bob" <rogerz@planetwide.com>; "oletrucks"
> <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 8:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [oletrucks] IFS brand recommendation
>
>
> > I just installed another Heidt's Universal Multi-fit crossmember on
> another
> > one of my toys.  The crossmember is actually the same as the one
produced
> by
> > Fat Fendered Street Rods which I've used in the past also and was very
> > satisfied.  The kits come with very detailed instructions.
> >
> > No the upgrade to 11" rotors is a wise decision especially on todays
> > roadways.  I always upgrade to the 11" rotors and appreciate the added
> > braking capability.  My only negative comment on their basic upgrade kit
> > which gives you the brackets, bearing and seals is that you have to get
> > rotors off of a certain year car and calipers off a different year car.
> The
> > worst part of all is that their instruction sheet has the wrong year of
> car
> > listed for the calipers and they won't fit the brackets?  I'm sticking
> with
> > the complete brake kit from ECI from now on because there kits didn't
give
> > me a headache.
> >
> > The rotors will lightly surface rust but I'd rather have that then a
> coating
> > that might cause brake fade.
> >
> >
> > Joe Garcia
> > Yuba City, CA
> > 1950 Chevrolet 3100
> >
> > http://chevy1.freeservers.com/
> > http://50chevy.freeservers.com/
> > http://1950Jeepster.freeservers.com/
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BelAir Bob <rogerz@planetwide.com>
> > To: oletrucks <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> > Date: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 8:12 AM
> > Subject: [oletrucks] IFS brand recommendation
> >
> >
> > >Friends,
> > >
> > >I'm going to order the MII IFS for my niece's 57 3100 this week and
have
> a
> > >couple of questions ya'll might be able to help me with.
> > >
> > >First, I like the looks and price of Heidt's Economy MII setup.  They
> have
> > >just recenly developed this kit for TF trucks.  Has any one had any
> > >experience with Heidt's units good or bad?
> > >
> > >Second, the tech guy I talked to at Heidt's strongly recommended
> upgrading
> > >to 11" rotors.  I know not to cut corners on the brake system, but are
> the
> > >11" rotors that neccessary or is it just a way for Heidt's to get
another
> > >$95 out of me?
> > >
> > >Third, many months back there was a discussion on the list about what
> > >coating to use on brake rotors to protect/seal the surface until time
to
> > put
> > >the truck on the road.  Did we ever come up with anything on that?  It
> may
> > >be as mush as 2 years before this truck hits the streets and I don't
want
> > >the rotors to rust up in the mean time.
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >Robert Rogers
> > >57 Belair Sport Coupe restored to original
> > >55 -2 3105
> > >55 -2 6400
> > >55 -5 3100 Wife's project
> > >57 3100
> > >and a few others
> > >
> > >oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
> > >
> >
> >
> > oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
>
> oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
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