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Subject: [oletrucks] Re:Phoenix I&E ??????
From: "BelAir Bob" <rogerz@planetwide.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:10:10 -0600
Guys,

Don't worry, Miq didn't let some spammer in.  I was sending out some
company mail on my personal account earlier and forgot to change back the
sender name back when I finished.

Robert
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> From: Phoenix I&E <rogerz@planetwide.com>
> To: Kevin Lake <lakek@oit.edu>; oletrucks@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [oletrucks] VIN plate question
> Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 1:52 PM
> 
> Yea,  the Texas DPS gets real serious about VIN tags and titles.  If you
> start monkeying with them you can loose your vehicle and got to jail in a
> hartbeat.
> 
> 
> 
> BelAir Bob
> 57 1/2 ton Panel custom
> 57 Belair Sport Coupe restored to factory specs.
> 
> ----------
> > From: Kevin Lake <lakek@oit.edu>
> > To: BelAir Bob <rogerz@planetwide.com>; varanus@mail.phoenix.net;
> oletrucks@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [oletrucks] VIN plate question
> > Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 7:49 AM
> > 
> > Ouch!  That could hurt.  Texas is serious about their vehicle titles
> aren't
> > they.  I spent two years in England and they had a place on the title
> where
> > you could change bodies, frames, etc.  You could buy a 1960 Austin Mini
> > Panel truck and remove the data plate and place it on a good car, say
an
> 84
> > Austin Mini Panel.  As long as you documented the changes with the
> British
> > Govt. it was perfectly legal.  A friend of mine had a 1985 Mini that
was
> > registered as 1968 Mini Cooper.  I have heard that they have gotten
more
> > strict in the last few years, but it was fun while it lasted.  Good
luck
> > with the paper chase.
> > 
> > Kevin Lake 56 napco/burb GMC  
> > 
> > ----------
> > > From: BelAir Bob <rogerz@planetwide.com>
> > > To: varanus@mail.phoenix.net; oletrucks@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: [oletrucks] VIN plate question
> > > Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 8:50 AM
> > > 
> > > Eric,
> > > 
> > > Your missing VIN tag could get you in a world of trouble here in
Texas.
> 
> > > Any law inforcement officer can confiscate your truck on the spot for
> not
> > > having a factory installed VIN tag.  A good friend of mine is a Texas
> DPS
> > > Motor Vehicle Theft Service Investgator.  He was looking at my Panel
a
> > few
> > > months ago and noticed that the VIN tag was attached with pop rivets.

> He
> > > asked me if I had done that and if the VIN number stamped in the
frame
> > > matched the tag.  They did not.  He told me to check my title and see
> > which
> > > number it matched.  I told him that I had not changed the VIN tag,
that
> > it
> > > was that way when I bought it.  He told me to check it out and get
back
> > to
> > > him.  He said he would have to "run" the frame munber if it didn't
> match
> > > the title and hopefully it wouldn't come up stolen.  Scary thought. 
He
> > > said if the tile did match the frame he would help me get a state
> > assigned
> > > VIN tag.  He said I would need to fill out a Form 68A, with his
> > assistance,
> > > and he would process it.  He said the only way to get the assigned
VIN
> > tag
> > > was to go through a DPS Motor Vehicle Theft Service  Investigator
> because
> > > they have to verify all of the numbers and they have to process the
> form.
> > 
> > > I , like you, started to loose sleep over my title problem.   
> > > 
> > > When I checked my title, I found it matched the body, not the frame. 
> > This
> > > made me a little sick.  When I bought my Panel several years ago I
also
> > > bought a 55-2 3600 that came with a big wad of paperwork.  The
previous
> > > owner was trying to get a title for the Panel so he switched the VIN
> tags
> > > between the two trucks.  In the wad of paper work I found a VIN tag
> that
> > > matches my frame and a bill of sale from the Weatherford Sheriff's
> > office. 
> > > I showed all of this to my DPS buddy and he suggested that I call the
> > > Weatherford Sheriff's office and see if they would reissue the bill
of
> > sale
> > > in my name.  They did.  Every thing is cool now, my buddy is
processing
> > my
> > > Form 68A and I'm not loosing any sleep.  
> > > 
> > > As for your question about a replacement original style VIN tag, I've
> > never
> > > seen one and if you found one, you would still need the state
assigned
> > tag
> > > as well.
> > > 
> > > Happy Hunting
> > > BelAir Bob
> > > 57 1/2 ton Panel custom
> > > 57 Belair Sport Coupe restored to factory specs.
> > > 
> > > ----------
> > > > From: varanus@mail.phoenix.net
> > > > To: oletrucks@autox.team.net
> > > > Subject: [oletrucks] VIN plate question
> > > > Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 4:14 PM
> > > > 
> > > > Hi again: my vin plate is missing.  This sometimes makes it hard to

> > > > get inspection as the inspectors don't know that vin numbers 
> > > > were same as engine numbers prior to 1958.  I would like to put a
vin
> 
> > > > plate back where it should be.  Are there any options such as 
> > > > having the state dmv approve a new vin plate?  They will give me a 
> > > > vin sticker but I also want the original style plate.  It keeps me 
> > > > awake nights knowing it is not there.  
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe I am wrong but I thought that for a restoration, there was a 
> > > > way to do this.  
> > > > Maybe not.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and
> 1959
> > > oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and
1959
> > oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
> oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959

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