I take it that Vern doesn't like the song, as well?
I've said it before, if anyone is thinking of creating a web site in tribute
of any club, group, or company - anything than for yourself - think again.
If you're thinking of providing space to another entity at your site, or of
moving into space offered by someone else - beware. You could find yourself
evicted, or the tenant may start dictating terms to you!
Things may start out rosy but eventually it's possible that some anal
control freak will question your right to editorial freedom, your right to
copyright, and what should & shouldn't be there - even though you receive no
compensation for your efforts. He may question your right to start an
enthusiast's site & your right to wind it down when you see fit. He may even
go to your server & attempt to have them make the additions & deletions he
wants!
So don't ever use anyone's logo or do something nice in someone else's name.
It can bite you on the ass!
It's a dead issue, Vern. My MSCCC pages are deleted. You're welcome to
create a site of your own, from scratch, as I did. Or hire a pro. What you
are referring to is not "spam", but your email is "flame".
I don't think anyone here at the List wants what should be in private,
posted in public.
Cheers,
Fred K.
----- Original Message -----
From: Vern Dale-Johnson <vern_dj@msn.com>
To: Allied <at@cgocable.net>; <morgans@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: Morgan Sports Car International community
> After several weeks of thought about how best to respond to recent actions
> taken by Fred Kuzyk, Past President and former webmaster of the Morgan
> Sports Car Club of Canada I'd like to share with those on this list a
> message I will be including in the next Morgan Sports Car Club of Canada
> (MSCCC) newsletter, The Blurb.
>
> "During 1999 I had several discussions via email and on the phone with
Fred
> regarding his interest in continuing as webmaster due to his waning
interest
> in Morgans and the MSCCC. The result of these discussions was the
inclusion
> of a note on the first web-page of Fred's MSCCC site(s) indicating the
> website was the "personal property of Fred Kuzyk". We've continued to
send
> material to Fred for posting (including e-copies of these Blurb
editorials)
> but have had little control over content. Recently, after complaints
> regarding an inappropriate "photo" that was posted and a request to Fred
> that it be removed, the website was cancelled and now, if you ask to be
> connected to the MSCCC website in its place you will find "Freddy K's Mog
> Page" with the following message displayed "Sorry, the MSCCC web pages are
> now off-line! After 3 years I find that I'm no longer able to continue to
> provide them. An unsupportive Club Executive and complaints rather than
> contribution have hastened this decision. Thanks for your visits. Fred
> Kuzyk"".
>
> "We appreciate the work Fred put into developing and maintaining the site.
> Should we consider a new site it will only be on the understanding the
site
> itself will belong to the MSCCC with content appropriate for a "public"
site
> visited by both MSCCC members and non-members. For those who need to get
> their regular Morgan fix, we encourage you to visit the GoMoG site,
> www.gomog.com where you will find a list of the Morgan Sports Car Club of
> Canada events (sorry, no e-files of the Blurb editorials and no photos).
> You will also find links to other Morgan groups, suppliers, as well as
many
> recent articles on Morgans from the press. This site is maintained for
> GoMoG by Lorne Goldman and has developed into the primary site for
> information in the Morgan world..."
>
> The above is a long-winded way of saying Fred Kuzyk does not represent the
> views of the MSCCC, its executive, or its members. As Fred indicates in
his
> message below, he has commandeered the 3 sites formerly devoted to MSCCC
> information for his own purposes. This spamming is distasteful and we
> request Fred close these sites immediately. If "Snake" wants his own
site,
> and if you as Morganeers are interested in accessing that site that is
> entirely your prerogative.
>
>
> Vern Dale-Johnson
> President
> Morgan Sports Car Club of Canada
> vern_dj.msn@attcanada.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Allied <at@cgocable.net>
> To: <morgans@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 11:21 AM
> Subject: Morgan Sports Car International community
>
>
> > In case you haven't visited the MSCI site recently, the host (Excite)
has
> > decided to pull the plug on their Clubs concept. Thus, the site will
cease
> > to exist after Dec
> > 29th. So today is your last chance to visit at
> > http://mycomm.excite.com/mycomm/browse.asp?cid=.4g3TS2kkNzU
> >
> > I'd like to thank the 104 people who joined as members during the past
> year
> > & a half, and who contributed items themselves (photos, links, files,
> > calendar events, posts, etc.) to this experiment of a free, world-wide
> > virtual club for Morganeers. And thanks also to those who visited as
> guests.
> > I particularly enjoyed the photos from around the globe, and commentary
by
> > members from Holland in Dutch. I've learned much from these web
> experiences:
> > more than just .jpgs and the like! Collaboration is more difficult than
> > making your own venue. The 1000 website Morgan future is not far off.
> Linked
> > but separate.
> >
> > Perhaps some ambitious Webmeister will save these photos from
cyber-space
> > extinction? Alex Schaap has already removed his Morgan In Africa photo
> > album to a newly created web site of his own. Perhaps sometime I may
post
> > some of the other photos at my web space formerly devoted to the Morgan
> > Sports Car Club of Canada sites, if someone doesn't do it before I get
> > around to it. I've taken my MSCCC pages off-line recently, after 3
years.
> No
> > more time or interest.
> >
> > At present, you can download a new Morgan song at the former web space:
> > http://members.xoom.com/msccc/
> > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/8030/index.html
> > http://clubs.hemmings.com/msccc/index.html
> >
> > Cheers All,
> > Freddy K.
> > "Snake"
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