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Re: Midget - Jumpy tach and no power

To: Max Heim <mvheim@studiolimage.com>, MG List <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Midget - Jumpy tach and no power
From: mgtrautoxr@sprintmail.com
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:51:38 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Another possibility might be that one of the brown wires that connects on to 
the starter is loose.  I had exactly the same symptoms about 20 years ago on my 
MGB, it would run but any time I got above about 3000 rpm power was down and 
the tach would jump around.  It turned out that one of the brown wires that is 
connected to the starter (one of the main power feeds to the car) was loose 
inside the socket of the copper ring connector that bolts on to the starter so 
once the rpms went up enough current couldn't get through the connector to 
properly operate the car and since the tach is elctronic it jumped around.  It 
was just a matter of resoldering the connector and it has been good ever since.

Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: Bullwinkle <yd3@nvc.net>
Sent: Jul 6, 2005 2:03 AM
To: "Paul T. Root" <ptroot@iaces.com>
Cc: Max Heim <mvheim@studiolimage.com>, MG List <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Midget - Jumpy tach and no power

Any solution suggesting fuel problems doesn't address the problem of the jumpy 
tach which will be getting it's signal from the ignition system.  This
car has " electronic
> ignition,"

I just went through a similar problem with almost the same symptoms on my 
Mother's 77 Datsun 810 with electronic ignition.  This distributor has a
magnetic pickup and a 6 point reluctor.  The car would idle fine (650 RPM) but 
as soon as the engine speed went much over 1000 RPM the tach would read
double the RPM, and the engine would miss.  At first it was a cold weather 
phenominum.  The colder the more likely.  As the engine warmed up, it would
run normally.  I tried replacing the fuel injection black box, the ignition 
black box, coil, alternator, ballast resister, tach, a resistor in the
tach feed wire all from a parts car, and new magnetic pickup, cap rotor, 
ignition wires, and plugs. I finally took the car in to the shop.  The
mechanic noticed the rotor had some wobble to it and rebuilt the distributor 
using the one from the parts car.  Two weeks ago when returning from a
1500 mile trip it started doing the same thing about 150 miles from home.  
After I got it home I pulled the distributor cap, and sure enough the rotor
would wiggle side to side.  I did a jury rig repair to tighten up the upper 
distributor bushing and now it's just fine again.

The wobbling reluctor sends false and miss timed signals to the coil.  This 
causes erratic timing and the extra signals cause the tach to read higher
RPMS than normal.

Regards,
Blake





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