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Subject: Re: Battery water
From: R C Engelhardt <hardt@sonic.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:54:46 -0800
I've been using tap water in batteries for 40 years and haven't killed 
one yet. I can't offer any scientific proof but I think that somewhere 
along the line, if tap water was bad for a battery, I would have 
realized it by now.

Ron Engelhardt
58 MGA

Barney Gaylord wrote:
> I have a feeling this is going to start an avalanche of vaguely related 
> response, and maybe even a religious war or two, but that is not my 
> intention.  I have only one very specific question.
> 
> When discussing what type of water to use for topping off a car battery, 
> the common response is usually "distilled water", and this is sometimes 
> (fairly often) followed by "anything else will ruin the battery".  The 
> simple form of my question is, "Why?".  Now before you jump into this with 
> both feet, please stick to the facts and try to surpress traditional rumor 
> and personal opinion (however difficult that may be), and also consider the 
> following.
> 
> I have done some web searching and read what is offered by several of the 
> major battery manufacturers.  Some say to use distilled water, with no 
> further explanation.  Some say to use "good quality drinking water" with no 
> mention of distilled water, and no other explanation.  At least one says to 
> use distilled water, followed by "If you don't have distilled water use 
> drinking water as better than nothing", (but of course distilled water is 
> also better than nothing).  In most cases there is little or no distinction 
> made between distilled water or drinking water.
> 
> The curious part is that in no case did I find any battery manufacture 
> making any statement to the effect that any type of water (at least 
> "drinking quality" water) would actually harm a battery.  This strikes me 
> as being quite "significant" in light of the fact that they have to cover 
> warrantee returns.  It seems to me that if there was any significant chance 
> that "drinking water" would harm a battery, the battery manufacturers would 
> be all over this fact and might even go so far as to viod the battery 
> warrantee if you use anything other than distilled water.  But as much as I 
> search I have found no such statement from any battery manufacturer.
> 
> So here's the challenge, and please stick to the facts, not 
> speculation.  Can anyone come up with documented proof that drinking water 
> might actually harm a car battery, and if so, what exactly would be the 
> mode of failure of the battery as caused by the water?  Best submission 
> with factual proof will get a full page writeup with credit and name 
> attached in the tech section of my web site (and maybe some print 
> publications as well), and maybe some additional prize for furthering the 
> education of mankind (but probably not the Nobel peace prize).
> 
> I need real cause and effect here.  A casual relationship is 
> insufficient.  "My battery died after adding tap water" doesn't cut 
> it.  Lots of batteries die (like all of them eventually) for various 
> reasons.  We have to know why it died, which may require an autopsy with 
> photos and chemistry test results.  Otherwise I would like to see some 
> results of controlled parallel lab tests on batteries using distilled water 
> and "other" water.  I am looking specifically for any DOCUMENTED reason why 
> "drinking water" would actually harm a car battery.
> 
> Gloves off,
> 
> Barney Gaylord
> 1958 MGA with an attitude
> http://MGAguru.com

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