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Re: stellite or not

To: David Councill <dcouncil@imt.net>, mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: stellite or not
From: Barney Gaylord <barneymg@ntsource.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:55:11 -0500
At 02:59 PM 6/27/02 -0600, David Councill wrote:
>Stellite exhaust valves - what are they exactly? They are almost twice the 
>cost of a regular exhaust valve ....

They are hard coated stainless steel exhaust valves, and I mean VERY HARD 
COATED (mince no words).  Anyone who drives a lot of miles or runs an 
engine hard should want these things, as they are worth every penny of the 
price.  If you believe me and that's all you wanted to know you can skip 
the rest of this message.

I put a lot of miles on my MGA, lots of cruising in the fast lane on the 
expressways, a moderate amount of very serious autocrossing, and more light 
trailer towing than all other mileage combined.  I used to wear out a set 
of stainless steel exhaust valves every 40,000 miles or so until I started 
using Stellite exhaust valves.  Now I can run an engine 100,000 miles and 
the valves are still in nice serviceable condition, even though the rest of 
the engine may have taken a beating by that time.  The combination of 
hardened steel valve seats, Stellite exhaust valves and bronze valve guides 
is a real winner (giving the bronze guides a skosh extra running 
clearance).  My last 100,000 mile cylinder head was transfered to another 
newly rebuilt engine after only minor touch up of the land width on the 
hardened steel exhaust seats.  I have to date never managed to wear out a 
Stellite exhaust valve, although I do prefer to install new ones when I do 
a general engine rebuild after 100,000 to 125,000 miles.

"Deloro Stellite" is a manufacturing company with facilities in several 
countries around the world.  Larry Hoy just gave the web address.  They 
manufacture intricate castings, compressed powdered metal parts, and 
machine parts.  They supply materials and alloys to other 
manufacturers.  And the make machinery for hard facing, machining and laser 
cutting.  Most of their business is related to high temperature, high wear 
and high corrosion applications.  They sell and/or license hard coating 
equipment to other manufacturing companies.

In context of that last sentence, "Stellite" is a company name (Deloro 
Stellite), and a trade mark or trade name, and also a process name.  The 
name has become generic in the sense that people sometimes refer to any 
hard coated part as a Stellite part, but I'm sure they still enforce their 
trade name, so other manufacturers are not allowed to use the name 
"Stellite" except under license agreement.  Various hard coating equipment 
that they manufacture and sell is refered to as Stellite coating 
machinery.  The parts treated with this equipment may be refered to as 
Stellite parts (as in Stellite exhaust valves).  A different company who 
buys the Stellite equipment and uses it to manufacture hard coated exhaust 
valves and also buys license to the name might legally call their parts 
Stellite exhaust valves.  As such these Stellite exhaust valves may or may 
not be manufactured by Deloro Stellite,  but you may trust that the hard 
coating is pretty much the same wherever they orginate.  You may trust the 
name.  It's a hard world.

Barney Gaylord
1958 MGA with an attitude
http://www.ntsource.com/~barneymg

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