Alfa NOT Alpha
I knew that too! The spell checker didn't though - and otherwise just old
fart's disease. Happening more and more lately. That's all.
THX!
-Jerry Erbesfield
73 B Black Beauty roadster
jerbesfield@mindspring.com
website- http://jerbesfield.home.mindspring.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Root [mailto:proot@iaces.com]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 10:10 AM
To: Jerry Erbesfield
Subject: Re: [Partial OT] Snotty Pinafarina owners
You must be trying to block that time of your life. :-)
It's Alfa not Alpha.
Jerry Erbesfield wrote:
> I knew that!!! - I DID get my countries mixed up! Didn't I. - At least
that
> proves that I have no real bias against any certain people, just the cars.
>
> Yes, most of the various Alpha models WERE a fun car to drive, even the
> sedans that I usually drove as a demo. They were impossible to keep
running
> reliably though. My memory has dimmed over the years but I DO remember
that
> the Alphas were so spindly and fragile. Broke easily, especially when
> pushed. You had to be a genius to keep their mechanical fuel injection
> running in tune. I can't remember a long term happy Alpha customer.
>
> During the seventies, I was the Service Manager for a Alpha franchise
> dealership, among other models that we handled, so keep that perspective
in
> mind. My boss also owned two Ferrari's, a Dino and a 2+2, that we serviced
> and that I often had the pleasure to drive for long periods. I especially
> liked the Dino, though it was a handful too to keep tuned and running
> reliable.
>
>>From that perspective, I don't like Italian cars.
>
> -Jerry Erbesfield
> 73 B Black Beauty roadster
> jerbesfield@mindspring.com
> website- http://jerbesfield.home.mindspring.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Root [mailto:proot@iaces.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:37 AM
> To: Jerry Erbesfield
> Cc: Tab Julius; mgs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Partial OT] Snotty Pinafarina owners
>
>
>
>
> Jerry Erbesfield wrote:
>
>
>>I don't know what part of the country you reside in Tab but I believe that
>>it depends on where you live as to how people react to special interest
>>
> cars
>
>>like ours. I live in the big city (Atlanta metro area - 4,000,000 +
>>
> people)
>
>>and I get a lot of what you wrote about here. There has been a time or two
>>that even an LBC person was rude to me. It's just life in the big city,
>>aggressive driving, hustling to and from work and too caught up in their
>>material worlds. I often wish that I could get away from it. I am CERTAIN
>>that smaller towns are NOT like this. Atlanta didn't used to be like this
>>but since we've been "discovered" everybody from the north, the rust belt
>>and even the middle and far east have moved here! There are not many
>>
> natives
>
>>like myself remaining. Southern hospitality? HA!! Not any more around
>>
> here.
>
>>A thing of the past.
>>
>
>
> Much like 'Minnesota Nice' on the highways and streets of the Twin
> Cities, that's long gone.
>
>
>
>>As far as Italians and Pinafarinas go, what the Hell do they have to be
>>stuck up about in the first place???!!! The only crappier built cars than
>>Italian cars (except for maybe the Ferrari) are Polish, namely the Yugo!
>>
>
>
> Ah, Yugo's were made in YUGOslavia. Go figure. Wasn't it a copy of a Fiat?
>
>
>>Don't get me wrong. I love the Italian and Polish people. I just don't
>>
> like
>
>>the way they build their cars. I used to work on Alphas for a living and I
>>
>
>
> Alfa
>
>
>
>>know more than I want to about Fiats too. Let me tell you that they ARE,
>>generally speaking, poorly built and unreliable, even when well
>>
> maintained,
>
>>no matter what designer name emblem that one might hang on it.
>>
>
>
> Many Italian cars are a bit high strung. Twin Cam engines and multiple
weber
>
> setups with multiple barrels. Fun cars though.
>
>
>
> I drove my brothers Alfa Romeo GTV6 for a summer when I was in Grad
> school. That car was great fun. It had this weird oil leak, a design
> flaw. There was a kit that rerouted the oil that fixed the problem. You
> had to pull the head to put it in, but it did work. Parts are expensive
> on them. I think Rich told me a clutch is now something like $900 just
> for the parts. That makes the 'Bs $900 for the job not so bad. But you
> know, rear transaxle, De Dion suspension, expensive stuff.
>
> > I like cats and I'm not snotty - - but I don't drive an Italian car
> either!
>
>
>
>>My $.02 worth anyhow.
>>
>>Flames welcome!
>>
>>-Jerry Erbesfield
>>73 B Black Beauty roadster
>>jerbesfield@mindspring.com
>>website- http://jerbesfield.home.mindspring.com
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-mgs@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-mgs@autox.team.net]On
>>Behalf Of Tab Julius
>>Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:10 PM
>>To: mgs@autox.team.net
>>Subject: [Partial OT] Snotty Pinafarina owners
>>
>>
>>Almost without fail, if I wave to another LBC in my area (which isn't
>>exactly rife in LBC's), I usually get an enthusiastic wave back, if not
>>more. But I waved at a small red convertible, initially unrecognizable,
>>later gave a welcome beep, and when I happened to park next to him, got
>>barely an acknowledgement (don't think I'm some oversocial puppy, but it
>>was more in context of hey - we have the only two small cars like ours in
>>the area). Not only did he not acknowledge in any sense of the word, but
>>in a few subsequent encounters where I've waved without recognizing that
>>
> it
>
>>was exactly his car, it's been total ignoration. Is this some snottiness
>>with Pinafarina owners? I've never seen this from a MG owner. If a MG
>>owner doesn't respond, it's only because they didn't notice to begin
>>with. Is it just some snotty Italian thing? Is he a cat lover? What
>>gives??? :)
>>
>
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