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Re: Knock Knock and Oil to Cam

To: MGS@autox.team.net, "JohnM.Trindle" <JTRINDLE@TSQUARE.COM>
Subject: Re: Knock Knock and Oil to Cam
From: Ramm, Andy <ARAMM@sv.tbgi.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:39:37 -0600
OH GOD, HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!!  The two strokes mailer went throught this 
"is a rotary a two stroke" discussion for a whole month!

Andy "No, a rotary isn't a two-stroke" Ramm
'67 Midget Mk III
soon to add '69 Beeeee

----------------Original Message Follows----------------

On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, U. Goettsch wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Frank van Dalen wrote:
> 
> > I think you got it wrong John...
> > 
> > Each piston has combustion once every 4 strokes of 180 degrees, ie 
once every
> > two crankshaft revolutions. If there was a knock from one piston/rod, 
you would
> > hear it 500 times per minute at 1000 RPM, ie 500/60 = 8.33 times per 
second.
> > The camshaft goes round at half the speed of the crankshaft, 4.17 a 
second,
> > which is the frequency of the knock in question. Or have I gone mad?
> 
> Mad, no, but read your post again - you contradicted yourself. 
> cam = crank / 2, yes, but crank is 1000, not 500!
> => both rod knock and cam knock are 8 times per sec!
> 

I'll grant you that I screwed up and ignition should occur in a cylinder 
once every 2 crank cycles.

I'll even grant you that cam RPM is half of crank RPM.  This makes sense 
since the distributor fires a spark off for each cylinder as the rotor 
goes around.  If cam shaft RPM is 1/2 crank RPM this would correspond 
with the previous paragraph.

I'll finally grant to you that I shouldn't have tried to answer this 
question this week.

I still think it's a rod knock on one cylinder.  The sound of a rod knock 

can range from 'tick' up to YEEECATS!!!

Oh, now that I understand how RPM works in a 4/4 piston car, can you tell 

me how it works in my RX7?  <grin>

John M. Trindle | jtrindle@tsquare.com | Tidewater Sports Car Club
'73 MGB DSP     | '69 Spitfire E Stock | '88 RX-7 C Stock
Home Page:  http://www.widomaker.com/~trindle
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