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Re: suspension animation

To: Will Zehring <wzehring@cmb.biosci.wayne.edu>
Subject: Re: suspension animation
From: Keith Holdsworth <holdswo@io.org>
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 20:20:29 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 3 Apr 1995, Will Zehring wrote:

> Fellow fiends:
> 
> I have a handful of remarkably elementary questions concerning the 
> suspension and road manners of Old Whitesides (the venerable '63B).  
> I have noticed the following:
> ---the car has considerable roll under even moderate speed turns 
> (e.g. exit and entrance ramps).  Friends (passengers) who know B's remark 
> that it is extreme for the car and I tend to agree.
> ---the car lists to port (driver's side), but not severely.  You need to 
> look at the car from about 30 feet to see it.
> ---during restoration I had the front shocks rebuilt, but did
> nothing to the rears (other than topping up fluid), nor to springs at any 
> corner.  Preliminary fender bounce tests didn't indicate bad shocks at the 
> rears.  Fronts were obviously gone.  Someone I've talked to says the rears 
> tend to last longer (maybe, but 32 years?).
> ---also, I didn't "bother" with the rear U-joints, or bushings.  However, 
> under rapid acceleration (is there such a thing?) or under rapid 
> deceleration I seem to notice some lightness in the car, that I correct in 
> the steering.  Its hard for me to describe this but the effect is a sense 
> that I'm wandering in my lane.  It is very stable at cruising speeds.
> 
> My questions are:
> ---The early B's didn't have a front sway bar.  I did not put one on, 
> either.  Should I?  How complicated is that process?  What size?
> ---Should I go ahead and have the rear shocks rebuilt?
> ---Should I go ahead and have the rear springs replaced?  (I focus on the 
> rear springs only because it is my hard to defend suspicion that the list to 
> port is due to a tired driver's side rear spring).
> ---I assume if I'm going this far that new rear bushings and U-joints would 
> be easy to take care of?
> ---Is there such a thing as a rear sway bar?  If so, should I install one?
> 
> I can imagine that the roll might be attributable to any of these bits, and 
> that to cleverly pick the culprit is darn near impossible?
> 
> You have by now realized that I haven't spent a whole heck of a lot of time 
> contemplating the suspension of MGs.  More than some of the above may be 
> completely wrong.  I'd appreciate any and all net wisdom/indulgence/teaching 
> on these topics.  This car is definately a keeper, so it doesn't bother me 
> to put a bit more $$ into it (heck, compared to what I've already done, this 
> will be a drop in the bucket).  I'd rather get it "right and proper" than 
> just put a bandaid on something.  The roll sort of takes away from the 
> tossability of the car - a prime reason for driving it in the first place!  
> Also, what order of repairs should I undertake?
> 
> Many thanks, in advance, for advice/comments/etc.
> Will Zehring
> 
> 
I put Ron Hopkinson front and rear sway bars on my 70 B and the 
difference in cornering is dramatic,now very flat.
Keith Holdsworth.

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