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Re: [Mg-t] scrappage laws- gun control

To: <dcongleton@embarqmail.com>, <larryshoer@comcast.net>,
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] scrappage laws- gun control
From: Raj Thadani <rthadani@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:30:50 -0400
Does anyone know of an email list meant for MG T Series cars?



I seem to be caught in a "crossfire" list!  ;-)




> From: dcongleton@embarqmail.com
> To: LarryShoer@comcast.net; mg-t@autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:26:28 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] scrappage laws- gun control
>
> Larry - other people do research, and spend a "few minutes checking facts" ,
> and are open to factual analysis-
>
> maybe you should read something other than the gun lobby reports-
> Here is a link-
>
> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15304
>
> Not trying to start any arguments and this car forum is not the place for
> politics, etc and ....
> I know that converting a liberal is almost impossible-
>
> this was information for independent thinkers
> Dallas
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Shoer" <LarryShoer@comcast.net>
> To: "List" <mg-t@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] scrappage laws- gun control
>
>
> > Before posting, I encourage people to spend a few minutes checking
> > facts. Here is an alternate interpretation of the Australian data. I
> > quote from http://www.guncontrol.org.au/index.php?article=32 (admittedly
> > not a neutral party, but their data sources are listed, so can be
> > further verified).
> >
> > -------------------------
> >
> > "Claim 1. Australian homicides are up 3.2% since the new laws.
> >
> > In 1998, compared to the average of the two years prior to new gun laws
> > becoming operative (1996-1997), gun homicides dropped by 37.8%. Murder
> > by all means dropped 13.7%.
> >
> > Claim 2. Armed robberies are up by a "whopping" 44% since the new laws.
> > In fact the rate of armed robbery increase dropped 12% in 1998.
> >
> > Claim 3. Assaults are up 8.6% since the new laws. In fact the rate of
> > assaults increase dropped by 4.2% in 1998.
> >
> > Claim 4. In Victoria there was a 300% increase in homicides following
> > the new laws. In fact the homicide rate in Victoria dropped by 19.8% in
> > 1998. Victoria has for many years had the lowest homicide rate of the
> > six Australian states. In three months we will have the 1999 ABS
> > statistics. These will allow the matter to be re-examined."
> >
> > -------------------------
> >
> > Other information in "A LITTLE GUN HISTORY" can be similarly checked.
> > Before jumping to a particular conclusion, I encourage you to do so.
> >
> > I, too, have strong opinions about this topic, but do not participate in
> > the MG forums to voice these opinions. I come here to escape the noise
> > and baggage of a chaotic world.
> >
> > Larry
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