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Re: MGTD Engine Number

To: "Bill Loubiere" <loubiere@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MGTD Engine Number
From: "David Tinker" <david.tinker@virgin.net>
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 19:11:04 +0100
Hi Bill, Yes the number should be the same on the firewall plate. ( we call
it the bulkhead here in the UK ). My TD was returned to the UK from the
SanFrancisco area and the plate reads much like yours should. The large
plate on the bulkhead reads :-
Car No.TD/8254
EXL/NA
Engine No. XPAG/TD/LHX 7239.

The EXL/NA means that it was a North American export car with left hand
drive.
TD engines on L/h drive cars also had the letters LHX following the engine
no. This LHX code was dropped early 1952.
Apart from originality I think there are no disadvantages, and such blocks
are relatively less expensive than originals.
I am no expert on the finer points of differences between the MG & Wolsley
block but I do know that the dipstick is on the opposite side to the TD. My
TD also has the words MG cast into the block with an octagonal frame around
it, this can be found on the other side of the engine from the octagonal
brass plate. I seem to recall that Wolsley blocks had a 'W' cast in this
position on the L/h side Framed with an shape not unlike this' <> '.as did I
think later blocks as does my 54TF. There are surely experts out there who
know more .
 My Cyl Head has the no 22952 cast into it just above the no1 exhaust
manifold .

If it does prove to be a non standard block it will be a negotiating
advantage!.

Keep us informed on progress

David Tinker

PS  Whilst looking for something else I have come across a paragraph in the
Brown & Gammons TD/TF parts catalogue entitled Engine Blocks & their
Identification. I will scan it and send it later but it seems there many be
other issues like different bore sizes.








----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Loubiere" <loubiere@earthlink.net>
To: "David Tinker" <david.tinker@virgin.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: MGTD Engine Number


> Dave,
>
> Thanks for your help on this.
>
> Should the number be the same as what is stamped on the firewall plate?
>
> The plate is missing but there is something on the raised plate.  If it is
a
> Wolsley 444 what should I look for?  What are the disadvantages besides
> originality?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> bill
>
> > From: "David Tinker" <david.tinker@virgin.net>
> > Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 13:58:15 +0100
> > To: "Bill Loubiere" <loubiere@earthlink.net>, <mg-t@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: MGTD Engine Number
> >
> > Hi Bill, The engine number is located on the raised square pad cast into
the
> > block on the r/h side of the car and to the rear of the drain tap. The
> > octagonal plate is fixed by just one screw in its centre. If the plate
is
> > missing the number should also be stamped on that cast pad. If there is
no
> > number on the block then you will need to explore whether it is the
correct
> > block or whether it is an XPAG type block from something like a Wolsley
444
> > or similar, the blocks are almost the same except for the oil dipstick
hole,
> > but even these can be repositioned. New engine plates are available.
> > Hope this helps
> >
> > David Tinker
> > 51 TD
> > 54 TF
> > E type ser1
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill Loubiere" <loubiere@earthlink.net>
> > To: <mg-t@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:20 PM
> > Subject: MGTD Engine Number
> >
> >
> >> I am considering buying a MGTD and need some help on understanding the
> >> location of the engine number.
> >>
> >> I have found the car and engine number on the plate on the firewall.
What
> > I
> >> do not understand is how to check the number on the engine to determine
if
> >> they match.
> >>
> >> The fire wall number is XPAG TD2 20---.
> >>
> >> A number on the engine head is REF118.  There may be a number on what
> > looks
> >> like a flat part of the block (right side).  There is a screw in the
> > middle
> >> of that flat section buy no plate.
> >>
> >> Where should the engine number be located?
> >>
> >> Any help would be appreciated.
> >>
> >> Bill Loubiere
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>




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