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Re: rear seal

To: "Lawrie Alexander" <Lawrie@britcars.com>,
Subject: Re: rear seal
From: "Bob and Carolyn Grunau" <cgrunau@pathcom.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:20:24 -0500
Hi Lawrie and Ed,
Your response begs the question, what are the "tricks"?

I have only installed one rear seal kit, it leaked. Stripped it down again
by removing flywheel and rear main cap, leaving the crank in place, saw
nothing wrong so re-gooped it and but it back in. It worked AOK. 
A friend installed one and it leaked after 25 miles. Discussion with
Chicago Rawhide indicated a revised seal, with double lip, CR-37389, the
extra lip is really a dust/dirt excluder but I guess every bit helps. (Moss
supply CR-37388 seal, same dimensions but no secondary dirt seal).

On another friend installation, which leaked, the CR guy suggested
installing the seal backwards to get more positive contact on the crank
flange with the lip seal.  He said it might leak a drop or two being
installed in reverse but would work. This was done and the seal is working
well.

So what else can we do to improve the seal performance?
Thanks for any info.
Regards, Bob Grunau;


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> From: Lawrie Alexander <Lawrie@britcars.com>
> To: Stuart Keen <simbafish@home.com>; MG <mg-t@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: rear seal
> Date: Thursday, February 17, 2000 10:31 AM
> 
> Stuart,
> 
> I've installed about a dozen in various customers' XPAG and XPEG engines.
> 
> With the exception of one engine, which persisted in weeping about as
much
> oil as one would expect from an un-sealed engine, all the installations
were
> a great success.
> 
> There are a lot of tricks to installing them correctly. I would not
expect a
> machine shop doing their first installation to be aware of all of them so
> your installation may not be as successful as you hope, I'm afraid.
> 
> However, if done correctly, they are really good.
> 
> Lawrie
> British Sportscar Center
> www.britcars.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stuart Keen <simbafish@home.com>
> To: MG <mg-t@autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, February 17, 2000 4:22 AM
> Subject: rear seal
> 
> 
> >Has anyone had success with the Moss crank rear seal conversion kit?
> >
> >A local machine shop just rebuilt my MGTD XPAG engine (due to a broken
> >crankshaft). During the rebuild, they installed a Moss crank Rear Seal
> >Conversion Kit, #433-415.
> >I thought this would be a good improvement.
> >
> >I just finished talking with a tech guru at a MG car club. When I told
> >him I
> >had installed the crank rear seal conversion kit, his breath went
> >away. He said, OH NO!". He is telling me that everyone in their club
> >that has installed this kit has had a failure within a few hundred
> >miles. He said the seal is not a good fit, about 1/32 overlap, will wear
> >quickly and then spew engine oil all over the dry clutch.
> >
> >Has anyone out there had any success with the rear crank seal conversion
> >kit? I'm looking for a vote of confidence. I looked in archives, but
> >didn't find much. Some said if the kit was installed correctly, if the
> >directions were carefully followed, then the seal does work. Any
> >opinions or experiences will be appreciated.
> >
> >Stu Keen
> >Venice, Fl.
> >
> >simbafish@home.com
> >
> 

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