I'm quite pleased that I opened up such a "can of worms" on this subject.
Thanks for all the input.
Steve
52 TD
> > From: Jarl&CaroldeBoer <deboer@pacbell.net>
> > To: cgrunau@pathcom.com
> > Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: TD carb overflows
> > Date: April 30, 1998 16:51
> >
> > Bob, I STILL do not agree. MY information is based on personal
> > experience with the cars while working at the dealer (Auto Engineering
> > in Lexington Mass.) in the very early 50s. ALL the cars were fitted as
> > I've described. For those with more recent MG experience it is very easy
> > to fall into the trap of believing the printed word - especially when
> > it's the service manual!!!
> >
> > For a clear example of the problem: If you look at the exploded diagram
> > of the TD/TF transmission on page F4, you'll see that the 1/2 gear hub
> > has continuous splines between the detents. That was the original intent
> > and so drawn by the artist in 1949. Cost factors made the factory go to
> > the simpler, cheaper, annular groove - which wore and caused gear
> > "rock", noise, and rapid wear. When Al Moss showed me his first
> > prototype repro hub in the early 70s while I was in his office, I
> > commented about that and he protested that he "had it made from the
> > production drawings". I showed him the difference (which I had asked
> > about and researched at the factory in the late 60s) and he subsequently
> > changed them to the original design. This makes first gear much stronger
> > and longer lasting when the hub is changed during a rebuild, but the
> > whole process illustrates how you cannot necessarily believe the words
> > and drawings in the factory manuals. Jarl
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Carolyn & Bob Grunau wrote:
> > >
> > > Jarl, sorry but I disagree with you on the routing of the carb overflow
> > > pipes on the TD.
> > > I always thought they passed OVER the front engine bearer plate, had a
> 90
> > > degree bend down and were held by a single P ( or d ) clip which holds
> both
> > > pipes side by side and bolts to the 8.0 mm bolt holding the front
> bearer
> > > plate to the block on the outside of the timing cover. We agree on the
> > > clip.
> > > The TC pipes were similarily routed.
> > > For the TD, as a reference, check out page D-1 of the factory TD
> Workshop
> > > Manual, figure D-2 clearly shows the pipes routed on top of the front
> > > bearer plate and then down the front.
> > > For the TC, Refer to Instruction Manual for the MG Midget ( Series TC
> ),
> > > page 43, illustration no. 18 also clearly shows the overflow pipes
> routed
> > > over the front bearer plate and then down the front.
> > > It is possible that other routings were used, but as a first reference,
> I
> > > think the official factory manuals are most correct.
> > > Regards, Bob Grunau
> > > ----------
> > > > From: Jarl&CaroldeBoer <deboer@pacbell.net>
> > > > To: ROBERT G. HOWARD <mgbob@juno.com>
> > > > Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net
> > > > Subject: Re: TD carb overflows
> > > > Date: April 29, 1998 22:43
> > > >
> > > > Sorry Bob, that is NOT correct. If that is what you found, someone
> had
> > > > already changed it. The clamp is lower case "d" shaped, in brass and
> the
> > > > pipes originally went THROUGH the front engine bearer plate. Jarl de
> > > > Boer
> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > ROBERT G. HOWARD wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve,
> > > > > They run from the carb bowls forward and down toward the forward
> > > engine
> > > > > mounting plate. After passing over it, they then bend to straight
> down,
> > > > > and are clamped my a little "M" shaped piece that has a bolt
> through
> > > > > the middle. If you see an empty hole in the plate, one that
> appears to
> > > > > accept about a 3/16" bolt (but it's the ww size, of course) that's
> the
> > > > > hole.
> > > > > Bob
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 30 Apr 1998 08:31:03 -0400 Steven Tritle <stritle@epix.net>
> > > > > writes:
> > > > > >Is there a clamp to hold the carb overflow tubes to the frame or
> do
> > > > > >they
> > > > > >simply "hang free"?
> > > > > >Steve
> > > > > >52 TD
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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