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Re: MMM Block problem

To: <Kellmg@aol.com>, <mg-mmm@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: MMM Block problem
From: "Ray" <spook01@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:28:00 -0500
References: <18e.1ca8b758.2c31ff07@aol.com>
Reply-to: "Ray" <spook01@comcast.net>
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Hi guys,
There is a product used in racing engines to stabilize the block for high RPM
usage.  It pours into the block and hardens inside, blocking water from the
bottom of the block.  This strengthens the block, and also gives more even
heat retention.  Since most of the heat needs to go into the cooling system at
the head and top of the bore, the bottom has no real value in cooling the
engine.
You might try using -yes, I know...- some JB Weld to seal the hole, then pour
a short shot of the Hard Blok Engine Block Filler into the engine.  I have
used it in street engines before. The number at Summit is:1-800-230-3030 .
Here is the description:

Hard Blok Engine Block Filler -Tough as iron
Hard Blok has the right ratio of iron for heat expansion identical to your
iron block and won't shrink or pull away from the cylinder walls. It stays
stable when exposed to water or high temperatures. It comes in a premeasured
short fill (12.5 lbs.) container to partially fill the jackets of your street
or oval track engine, or tall fill (28 lbs.) container for drag racing.

Sold individually.

This stuff works!

Best,
Ray


I intend to live forever -- so far, so good.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Kellmg@aol.com
  To: mg-mmm@autox.team.net
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 4:00 PM
  Subject: MMM Block problem


  Hello Listers,

  I have developed a problem with the PA block that I have. Single breather.
  57mm plus 0.060".

  Number four cylinder has a hole in to the water jacket. The block was bored
  out 3000 miles ago. It was stripped down because of an unrelated problem.
  During this time I found a small pin hole in the cylinder. After I had
cleaned it
  out with a screw driver it now measures about 3/16" deep and 3/4" around the
  circumference of the bore.

  Re-sleeving it would be no problem except for the fact that the hole is
  located directly at the bottom of the water jacket. This puts it below the
top
  level of the recesses for the throw over of the conrods. Hence when the bore
is
  sleeved the point where the hole lies hasn't got the meat of the block
  surrounding it completely due to the recesses which have also been slightly
enlarged to
  compensate for using Carrillo rods.

  More than one machinist has said that it would leak at this point and showed
  no enthusiasm for success. The hole ends about 3/4" away from the nearest
  recess. They said coolant would track and open it and leak. They were not
  conversant with any modern or high tech substance that could be used when
inserting
  the liner either as a sealer or gluing effect.

  Due to the location of the recess a "wet liner" couldn't be used. That's
out.
  The machinist that I have chosen to use has said "What else are you going to
  do?"
  Which leaves me only to try it.  I have no doubt that the wall will collapse
  at some point when boring. Presumably there are many MMMs running around
with
  only part of a liner as the bore.

  My question to you, is there a product that could be used when inserting the
  liner and in effect sealing where ever it registers?

  All experience, good and bad, greatly appreciated.
  Obviously it isn't going to be at The Queen Mary next month (GoF West.) but
  I'll be there to kick tyres and "sink a few."

  Hope to see all  the regulars there and then some.

  Regards,

  Brian Kelly.

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