Well if I build a car with the same track front and rear how can you tell
what wheel made the track? Second I could argue as a builder that the course
was not stable enough to withstand the turbulance of the base drag / wake of
my car at speed and the reason for missing marks. How could FIA contradict
that? If I was to build a thrust powered anything I certainly would not
build in any downforce more than needed to maintain control any more will
just slow me down. I think proof of the tire contact by the methods used are
not really proof of tires on the ground. Laser ride height gauges might be
but I could argue there was a very small bump in the poorly prepared course
that launched the car in the air for some distance. I think the standard of
all 4 wheels touching the ground 100% of the time a standard impossible to
enforce and prove. Remember traction control..LOL. Motor racing is not a lab
experiment with all varibles controlled it is real life stuff happens and I
think needs to be treated that way but only my opinion and worth 2 cents or
less no doubt nothing.. FIA would have to disallow any finish by an F1 car
that ever lifted a wheel during a race and a very common thing if this was
the standard. The whole big money deal is distressing and seems to be a
common theme. I think everyone spends 10% more than they can really afford
and a different number for each so matbe lets get over it. Make any sense?
Oh well my rants back to bed for me..
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "drmayf" <drmayf@mayfco.com>
To: "Ray Buck" <rbuck@xmission.com>
Cc: "LandSpeed list" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Bloodhound
> Ray, I believe it does indeed invalidate the attempt. With only two wheels
> on the ground it is not a car. But, money talks.
>
> mayf
> Ray Buck wrote:
>
>> The question of "how many wheels on the ground" has been discussed
>> before and I'm not sure I ever saw a definitive answer.
>>
>> If a car is presented with 4 wheels but one (or even 2) of them happens
>> to lift off the ground during a record run, is the record invalidated?
>> It might be seen as somewhat like outrigger (training?) wheels on a bike
>> liner. Some may start with 3 or 4 wheels, but at speed only 2 are in
>> contact with the ground at speed.
>>
>> Just for the sake of argument, let's say that a car like the Bloodhound
>> which has 2 front wheels with a much narrower track than the rear, finds
>> itself in a state where the front wheels are off the ground for a period
>> of time...maybe 100 yards, maybe a mile...??? Would this then invalidate
>> an FIA record? Or could someone protest a record if they could show that
>> only the rear wheels we in contact with the ground? I think that's what
>> Mayf's alluded to in the last sentence of his post, and it sure seems
>> like a questionable area to me.
>>
>> RtR
>> (gonna be on the salt early for SW to photograph course setup)
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