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Re: [Land-speed] Cam Belt-Drives

To: Kirkwood <saltfever@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Cam Belt-Drives
From: drmayf <drmayf@mayfco.com>
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:52:10 -0700
Sorry, I am not buying it.  Why, you may ask? Well, he provides 
absolutley no data, no methodology to test  or anything other than trust 
me. Just because he says  it is so.  Well, he has to show me the math 
and physics involved.  He talks of no torsional inputs from the prop, 
but looking at his cowling arrangement shows me that's baloney. Every 
time a blade half goes from the horizintal and passing below the 
radiator it has a torsioan; input that is different that the rest of the 
propeller arc.  And teh belt is way more than just a coupling stiffness 
mechanism. How's that? well the teeth on the belt are teh shock 
absorbers which give to reduce the harmonics.   It is kind of like a 
rubber torsional coupling for a boat or anything that needs drive shaft 
shock absorbing, just on a smaller basis but more of them.  In teh case 
of a ICE th eidea is to reduce crank harmonics and preven them from 
getting into the cam causing valve train  errors. Not to mention spark 
timing issues. So I am still on board with cam drive belt systems. Just 
wish I could afford one, lol...

But I like his motor! That is the one on my Turbo Sprint! A screaming 
993 cc of turbo terror......maybe......

mayf
Kirkwood wrote:

>Mayf's timely question has raised another issue. If one was to believe
>advertising you would think that a belt drive was a magic excelsior to
>dampen all the bad harmonics coupled to the cam. Not being an engineer it
>sounded like a plausible solution. However, as a technocrat suspicious of
>unsubstantiated advertising, I am always looking for good data proving the
>supposition. I am still neutral about belt drive claims. Testing and
>engineering analysis to prove belt-drive claims is non-trivial and
>expensive. In Experimental Aviation a belt-drive-prop-reduction-unit has
>always claimed, among other things, to be beneficial due to its dampening
>characteristics.  So, in absence of good data, it is refreshing to see an
>interesting article that appears to debunk the status quo. 
>
>http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2009-10_beltdrive.asp
>
> 
>
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