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To: Wester Potter <wester6935@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] American Engineering
From: Bryan Savage <b.a.savage@wildblue.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:11:59 -0800
Well Wes, who agreed to all of those benefits? Management or Engineering?

I remember back in the '40's and '50's, there were auto strikes that 
lasted months.
By the '70's, management was caving in at the threat of a strike.

A crazy way to run a business.

Bryan



Wester Potter wrote:
> Ford Motor Company's highest cost, next to raw materials, is
> employee benefits, not salaries.  You can blame collective bargaining
> for that.  Locally Geneva Steel shut own and the plants equipment was
> sold to South Korea where it was newer and better than what they had.
> The United Steelworkers contract allowed a sabbatical year with full pay
> every seven years.
>
> American technology and war damage aid built the looms and spinning
> equipment that allowed the Japanese textile industry to get a huge jump
> on the tired US equipment that produced the uniforms worn by the US
> military in WWII.  Thirty years ago we used to buy from US manufacturers
> who were producing the shirts, slacks and suits in the US.  Now we ship
>   a computer disc anywhere in the world to a "bundler" who uses US laser
> technology to cut the garments and they pay pennies on the wages that
> would be paid in the US to construct the clothing.  That American
> mainstay, Levi Strauss, used to make their jeans in San Francisco, then
> El Paso and now completely in Mexico and other Central American
> countries.  Where do the big profits go?  To the American stock holders.
> There's a trade off but I don't like the way things are going!
>
> Wes
> On Jan 14, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Glen Barrett wrote:
>
>   
>> Back when all of the outsourcing started the unions fought it and  
>> lost. Hell
>> they pay the farmers to not grow crops so we can buy the same stuff  
>> out of
>> Mexico and let them cross the borders and steal from us and send the  
>> money
>> home. In aerospace they had parts built all over the world for the  
>> planes
>> and I assure you we got a lot of parts that needed hours of cleanup  
>> and re
>> work before they could be used. That same for cheap Jap cars and now  
>> look
>> they outsell all of the US cars.
>> Done bitching
>> Glen
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
>> To: "Bryan Savage" <b.a.savage@wildblue.net>; "List Land Speed"
>> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] American Engineering
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Bryan I totally agree... and politically could jump all over  
>>> this ... but
>>> best I let that dog lie...
>>>
>>> K
>>>       
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