No doubt about it. All you say is true and you obviously understand the
principles of the rain tire. I seriously doubt that wide/rain tires are
the ultimate answer for everyone. I just know they worked well for me.
BTW, I've taken the Daytona tire and softened it up (hot lap softener)
some for my last race, we'll see how much bite I get in the first 200
ft.
Grib
"Do what others Won't and you'll do what others Can't for the rest of
your life"
-----Original Message-----
From: Albaugh, Neil [mailto:albaugh_neil@ti.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:14 PM
To: 'rgribble'; 'Russel Mack'; 'BB'; 'Joe Amo'
Cc: 'DrMayf'; land-speed@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Parachutes & wide tires
Grib;
Thanks for that first-hand info-- very interesting.
I suspect those Daytona/Talladega tires you grooved were fairly hard
compounds as the speeds and loads on those high speed banked tracks are
pretty tough on tires. Rain tires are much softer and stickier--
something like "qualifying" tires. The groove pattern on rain tires has
been developed to literally "pump" the water out of the tire's contact
patch with the road, so hand- grooving isn't quite the same.
All in all, this "wide-tire question" doesn't have a cut & dried answer.
I think the previous string on wide tire camber sensitivity also comes
into play, too. Some cars can benefit from wide, stickey tires, others
handle poorly with them.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: rgribble [mailto:rgribble@carolina.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:41 PM
To: 'Russel Mack'; Albaugh, Neil; 'BB'; 'Joe Amo'
Cc: 'DrMayf'; land-speed@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Parachutes & wide tires
I went to the Salt last year and tested different tires. My best results
were with the 12" wide "Rain Tires" that NASCAR used at Japan. I spun
twice testing the Daytona/Talladega tires I grooved and once cause I
couldn't take my finger off the NOS button.
Mayf could probably give us an equation as to what fluid (air being a
fluid) handling characteristics that particular tire has. Me I'm just a
converted redneck and I know what worked for me. Wishing I had a dollar
for every time I did something someone told me I couldn't.
I'll use skinny tires on the front of the Merk but I'll try to fit those
rain tires in the back.
Best to all,
Grib
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