and another thing :):):)
why dont you ask how many people have
logged dyno time before Bonneville, and how
many of them had some kind of motor failure
running on the salt, its a big list, with big names
independent efforts and Corporate efforts
by the way, the newly assembled motor qualified
over the record, and ran over the record on the
return run, in the wrong mile though, ran out of nitrous,
the tuned motor lost a rod, the parking lot junk motor
ran stronger, because I knew what basic tuneup it needed
I am bull headed
what in the heck does the tuneup sitting still
in the pits tell you about what the motor is
doing at speed, do you suppose that the
rear wheel hp is different?
I have watched countless efforts with big dollar
backing, and all the dyno time in the world, come
to Bonneville and promptly scatter the motor
flame me, but not like Keiths dyno tuned pistons
please
love ya Keith, I have been holier than though at
Bonn. too, and have the pistons to prove it
Joe :)
DrMayf wrote:
> Joe, I started this thread to see if there was interest in using a
> dyno. There is apparently not much. However, to add something to you
> comments below about determining power at home then running on the
> salt. I am all for that. But, I remember year before last when you
> were in the Notel 6 parking lot reassembling a "fresh" motor after
> ventilating the primary one. Wouldn't you have liked to know that the
> rebuild was at least some kind of capable before you wasted your time?
> I would think that having some way to quantify the output, tune the
> 'new' motor whether it be car, bus, train, or motorcycle before making
> a run. Might even be a safety issue such as you could blow it up
> before getting too fast to handle during an upset (yipes that came out
> of left field). In any case, likely the use of any kind of dyno at the
> salt is kaput. At least from me.
>
>
>
> mayf
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From:jkamo <mailto:jkamo@home.com>
>
> To: Bill Smith <mailto:WmTSmith@landracing.com>
>
> Cc:jonw@up.net <mailto:jonw@up.net> ; drmayf@teknett.com
> <mailto:drmayf@teknett.com> ; land-speed@autox.team.net
> <mailto:land-speed@autox.team.net>
>
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:08 AM
>
> Subject: Re: Dyno Capability
>
>
> Why not get "quantifiable data" at home then
> go to Bonneville and see how fast you can go
>
>
> hp at Bonneville may not be the same at home
> where you are likely getting much of the motor
> output sorted out
>
> I know the week is too long for me to fool
> around and make dyno pulls AFTER I show
> up on the salt, the last thing I want to
> do is make full power full nitrous dyno runs
> to se how many times the internals like the
> stress, unless it is to seee how fast it is going
>
> this dyno business doesnt tell you didly about
> what the motor is actually doing AT SPEED
> on the course, and may shorten your week
> "sorting things out"
>
> dyno time may be great, but seat time
> is pretty darn important too :):)
>
> Joe
>
> Bill Smith wrote:
>
>>Guys, Someone should contact Dynaflow sp? from Colorado--- they take their
>portable
>>to Pikes Peak (I think free of charge ) for the bike guys I bet they might do
>the
>>same. wmts
>>
>>---- Original Message ----
>>From: Jon Wennerberg
>>Date: Wed 2/20/02 13:01
>>To: 'jkamo', 'DrMayf'
>>Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net
>>Subject: RE: Dyno Capability
>>
>>You know, I've thought about asking Jim at 4&6 about packing up his dyno for
>>motorbikes and taking it to the races at the Salt -- just so the racers
>>would have some quantifiable data to use. Should I pursue this line, or do
>>you think it'd cost more than it is worth? Maybe it'd be something that I'd
>>have to sponsor or contribute to or whatever. . .
>>
>>Comments will be welcome -- I'll follow up and let you know if I can have a
>>motorcycle chassis dyno at the Salt. Yes, Jon, I know about the "Gr
>>eat
>>White Dyno" just east of Wendover -- know what you mean.
>>
>>Jon #436 1350 M/PS/G
>> Marquette, Michigan
>> (that's way up north)
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-land-speed@autox.team.net
>>[mailto:owner-land-speed@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of jkamo
>>Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 9:43 PM
>>To: DrMayf
>>Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net
>>Subject: Re: Dyno Capability
>>
>>
>>Mayf, that white one outside of Wendover works real good,
>>simulates air density, temp, pressure, and even coefficient of
>>friction.........
>>
>>Joe
>>
>>DrMayf wrote:
>>
>>>If I had a dyno that would let you hook up your race car and simulate the
>>>length of time to make a complete run and record your parameters, would you
>>>come to Pahrump to use it? Would you pay for it? What if it was portable
>>>enough to bring to the race venue and hook up your car there? Would you pay
>>>to use it?
>>>
>>>mayf, the red necked ignorant desert rat in pahrump
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