Russ
Thanks, always enjoy your input, tell the family and the gang hello.
Glen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>
To: "'Finishline Coatings'" <lona@finishlinecoatings.com>;
<basavage@earthlink.net>; "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>; "Joe Amo"
<jkamo@rapidnet.com>
Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:43 PM
Subject: RE: coatings
> Russ;
>
> This is excellent-- thank you!
>
> Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Finishline Coatings [mailto:lona@finishlinecoatings.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 4:09 PM
> To: basavage@earthlink.net; Keith Turk; Joe Amo
> Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net
> Subject: coatings
>
>
> Hi guys and list:
> O.K. I'll share with you all some things about coatings. It might get
> kind of lengthy, so I'll do it in installments and remember, you can
> always use your delete button. (This is not an advertisement - only to
> inform the landspeed racer about how coatings can help them - pros and
> cons).
> Also, Joe, thanks for the kind words and yes, Lona is a great lady -
> like Keith's Miss Kathy. She keeps me "somewhat" in line. She's also my
> best friend and business partner.
> I'll start this with Header Coatings because I'm sure most everyone
> knows about them.
> 18 - 20 years ago two companies, Jet Hot and H.P.C. (High Performance
> Coatings) introduced ceramic coatings to the hot rod world. These
> coatings were originally developed for the aerospace industry. Anyway,
> for about 6-8 years Jet Hot and HPC were the only two places to get
> headers coated and they both have good products. Their coatings are not
> exactly the same as they each have their own formulas, but both
> company's formulas for their ceramic metallic coatings are certified by
> NASA for turbine jet engine use - as is ours. Now there are about twenty
> different small companies through out the United States doing header and
> exhaust coatings. Other than Jet Hot and HPC I think only about two or
> three other companies make their own ceramic coatings. Most buy their
> products from coating manufactures. I think there are three main
> manufacturers of raw product in the US. They are all good, (but we feel
> that one manufacturer of coatings is far above the rest).
> What we don't formulate ourselves, we purchase from them. Even some of
> what we purchase, we re formulate.
> The silver coating (ceramic metallic coating) that is so popular is good
> to around 1300 degrees fahrenheit - no matter who makes it. The reason
> it can be polished to a hugh luster is because it has a high amount of
> aluminum in it. Its the aluminum that is being polished. Also, the
> aluminum is what starts to break down at around 1300 degrees and the
> shine starts to dull out. At around 1400 degrees, the aluminum will
> start to break down the ceramic and the coating comes off.
> The ceramic metallic coating is a very good rust inhibitor and also, a
> good thermal barrier. But it is only as good as the preparation that is
> done to the header or other parts. There are some on this list that
> have had more than one company do coatings for them and can tell you
> first hand about how their products work.
> About 7 years ago Marlo Treit came to us with some problems on their
> Lakester and asked us if we could help him. He would be needing some
> extremely high thermal barrier coatings for his new streamliner. I've
> had the pleasure of knowing Marlo for over 40 years and knew that he was
> very serious about what he needed. Also, three years ago Skip Hedrich
> approached me about some of the same problems and needs as Marlo's. To
> make a long story shorter, we have developed ceramic coatings that are
> so good that you can touch headers on a running motor and not burn your
> hands. We developed the only ceramic thermal barrier coating that can be
> applied to fiberglass, carbon fiber, kevelar and some plastics. This
> coating is so good you can apply a direct flame of up to 900 degrees to
> fiberglass, etc. for hours and it will not burn. No one else has these
> coatings. We have patented them and the procedures for applying them.
> They were developed for the land speed racing community. Skip Hedrick's
> body panels and chute tubes lay right against the headers and pipes and
> show no signs of ever getting hot after being coated with these
> coatings.
> One more thing I'll mention now...why I detest heat wrap. The idea is
> good but in reality it's junk. First of all, it absorbs the moisture it
> creates in condensation from heating up and cooling down in different
> atmospheric and humidity conditions. When it cools down, it shrinks the
> pipe down and will actually, in time, go right through a piece of
> tubing. If you have ever tied a piece of wet leather around your wrist
> and let it dry and do it over and over it will eventually cut your wrist
> off. The next thing is that it soaks up oil like a sponge and never
> dries out. What happens when you have enough "oil downs" and eventually
> the wrapped headers are soaked with so much oil or fuel that when the
> headers get hot enough ...Boom!! Instant fire. More than one car fire
> has been caused by using heat wrap. (are you reading this Keith - think
> about why I asked you this question) Anyway, this is all for now.
> I hope it wasn't too boring. In a couple of days, if you want, I'll
> share with you about engine coatings.
> Russ Meeks
> #902 M.R.
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