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Re: Fire bottle certification

To: land-speed@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Fire bottle certification
From: ARDUNDOUG@aol.com
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:11:38 EST
In a message dated 03/24/2001 9:21:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
saltracer@awwwsome.com writes:

<< Doug,
 You don't say whose system this is, but, I am a few hundred miles from
 my system supplier and have been allowed to have them weighed by a fire
 extinguisher service organization and tagged. Of course, you need to
 know what the correct weight is. Originally, the weight of the empty
 bottle and bottle with content will be affixed to the bottle. Jim Deist
 says, "testing of the lines that deliver the product is the most
 important." If you get a leak in the bottle, it will likely empty itself
 anyway. Short of shipping the bottles back to the supplier for
 certification, I know of no other way to meet the requirements. As for
 testing of the bottle, I know of no standards, I suspect though that
 there are some. Any pressure vessel has a service life expectancy.
 Tom, Redding CA - #216 D/GCC
  >>
Tom,
    My bottles are the Phoenix aluminum type which supposedly cannot be 
refilled, although my local aircraft Halon guy will gladly do it.
    Where I first had the problem was after the bottles passed their 5th 
birthday and the "old-time" traditional fire extinguisher shop balked at 
continuing to certificate the weight without hydrostatic testing, even though 
I had a letter from Phoenix stating that the bottles were not to be emptied 
and refilled. I think that Phoenix was just angling for more business.
    It was then that I discovered that the rule that bottles had to have 5 
year hydrostatic testing or they couldn't be transported on the hiways 
referred to commercial carriers only. 
    Regards steel bottles, I believe that most extinguisher service places 
can do the hydrostatic testing job every 5 years. I have no knowledge of 
anybody being required to furnish application standards for the end use of 
the extinguisher.
    The aircraft extinguisher place that does mine in Oakland just weighs the 
bottles annually, compares that weight to the sticker figures, affixes a 
supplemental sticker, takes my $20, and everybody parts company with a 
smile.......Ardun Doug King

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