Go get em Tom. 200 MPH in the dirt has got to be a thrill. Jeff can enter a
very elite group of racers with three hats.
As Dave D. said "if this was easy the interstate would be cluttered with 200
MPH Pintos." Were all a lucky group of racers to be doing what we do
regardless of the records. Best of all is the camaraderie with some of the
best (and fastest) people on the planet. I like your Philosophy "just
breathing the air at these events is a true blessing".
John Beckett
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas E. Bryant" <saltracer@awwwsome.com>
To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Time Change your Philosophy!!
> Keith,
> I really feel sorry for you! You see I had that attitude for years,
> makes you walk around with a little black cloud over your head, then one
> day I realized that God had blessed me with the opportunity to compete
> at these events. Many don't have that opportunity!!! Records are a
> bonus, just breathing the air at these events is a true blessing.
>
> Don't take this wrong, it is partly "tongue in cheek", but it is also my
> new philosophy. I love chasing records and breaking them, but when you
> get them they are just borrowed, some one will come along and take them
> away. It would be great I guess to be the best in the world, but I will
> settle for being the best I can be.
>
> Having said all that, I just fired my engine Monday after making some
> changes, it sounds to me like 200 MPH at November El Mirage Meet. You
> see, Jeff still has that club to enter for his three 200 Clubs and I
> WANT that record back.
>
> Tom, Redding CA - #216 D/GCC
>
>
> Keith Turk wrote:
> >
> > Ahhh the Truth Be Told..... The Record.... Held by Steve Batchelor at
> > 230.354 and we went 228.304 .... that having been said.... hmmm 2 + mph
> > difference.... and Yep that is Fairly fast.. damn near racey... only
15mph
> > short of Racey in Dave's opinoin
> >
> > Fun was had by all....no doubt What hurts is the Truth in all of it...
We
> > were out there with Average equipment and did as good as could be
done...
> > Had I spent the 600 bucks on these new heads instead of running Old
JUNK...
> > well maybe the outcome would have been different... or had I dry sumped
the
> > Rodeck in the first Place I wouldn't have been worried about 4 miles an
> > hour... and we could have spent more time in impound and less out there
in
> > the Cold working our butt's off trying to get something done that was
about
> > impossible...
> >
> > the one thing that is hard to put into words... is just how much I hate
> > loosing... or not doing what I set out to do...It just doesnt' set well
> > with me.... I can have a good attitude about all of it...and I am not a
sore
> > looser... but I didn't go out there to go fairly fast...
> >
> > One of the Best things about Dave is that he has the exact same
attitude...
> > neither one of us will leave a Stone unturned ... we will both mull this
> > over and run it through our minds until we are sick of it.... Honestly I
> > think that is what it takes to win..... That and to never let your
mistakes
> > go un-fixed... Brad is the same way... I try always to surround
myself
> > with folks that don't share my opinoins.... and Winners...
> >
> > Keith
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "dahlgren" <dahlgren@uconect.net>
> > To: "Joe Amo" <jkamo@rapidnet.com>
> > Cc: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>; "Glen Barrett"
<speedtimer@earthlink.net>;
> > "Ken Bond" <kmb2@humboldt.edu>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 6:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: Time to stop lurking :-)
> >
> > > Glad to Joe... My version of run like stink generally involes breaking
a
> > > record.. Kieth we went fairly fast on a good course... No record no
> > > hat...about 4 under the record if I remeber right.. and it is all
> > > relative to the record.. A h/production car going 140 on a 130 record
> > > runs like stink..a D/FALT running 228 on a 230 is going fairly fast at
> > > best and at worst burning gas and making some noise...
> > > A ton of nitrous.... A ton of nitrous is when you are sure that with
the
> > > current jetting that you will break the crank at the 3 and then jet it
> > > up another 100 hp just to make sure you set the record with the broken
> > > crank..it is realative to the power output of the engine too in my
> > > mind..a 300hp 120 inch engine with 150 hit has a lot of nitrous one
with
> > > 250 hp or more has a ton.. LOL anything over 50% or what the engine
> > > makes already gets you into the racey catagory. A 200 hit on a 550
> > > engine is just a little 'help'. But we did have as much fun as you
can
> > > have without setting a record and it was a good vacation for me to get
> > > away from serious racing.. LOL
> > > All in good fun, as always,
> > > Dave
> > > Joe Amo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dave Dahlgren, oh Dave, did you see this from Turk? ""We made that
298
> > Cast Iron
> > > > Motor run like Stink with a Ton of Nitrous...""
> > > >
> > > > Dave D. could you please define (for Keith) what "run like stink"
and
> > "tons of
> > > > nitrous" mean?? Joe :)
> > > >
> > > > Keith Turk wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Okay Ken.... Lets get this Right.... Jon is the fella that Favors
> > round
> > > > > Bottomed boys in Sailer Suits... and Glenn well..... We just don't
> > check his
> > > > > ..... Wait a Min... I still gotta get a time slip....
> > > > >
> > > > > in answer to your question.... of earlier here are my favorite
> > combinations
> > > > > for a D Motor...
> > > > >
> > > > > 2.94 stroke and a 4.whatever bore.... gets you out to 4.060.... at
> > 304.5
> > > > > cubes...
> > > > >
> > > > > My 2.9 stroke 4.040 is a nice one too... just a bit small
> > > > > but it again allows you to go out to 4.060 on a standard Block...
> > > > >
> > > > > The Rodeck is a 4.125 bore with a 2.8 stroke... and yeah it's a
300
> > inch
> > > > > motor also....But I can bore it if I want...
> > > > >
> > > > > Heads.... Like I said yesterday.. these Cheap ole Dart 230's seem
to
> > be
> > > > > Better then my old High Dollar Hogans... ( just like Dave told me
they
> > would
> > > > > be... yeah I know.. I hate that Too.... but at least I admit when
> > someone is
> > > > > Right.... unlike Jon.... who is going to deny the sailer suit
> > thing....
> > > > > TRUST ME on this I know) Brad has been doing his home work on the
> > Aluminum
> > > > > Version of this Head.... and It sounds like a Better deal...
> > > > >
> > > > > We made that 298 Cast Iron Motor run like Stink with a Ton of
> > Nitrous...
> > > > > sure is a shame you can't run some in the GT Class....( hey Dan...
how
> > come
> > > > > they don't have a Fuel Class for GT and MS?)( yeah I am into
Stirring
> > the
> > > > > Pot tonight)
> > > > >
> > > > > Keith ( who is up for a Weedeater Discussion )
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Glen Barrett" <speedtimer@earthlink.net>
> > > > > To: "Ken Bond" <kmb2@humboldt.edu>
> > > > > Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 6:48 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Time to stop lurking :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ken
> > > > > > welcome aboard, but watch out for Keith he's strange & makes
fake
> > rocks.
> > > > > Enjoy
> > > > > > the group.
> > > > > > Myself I do the timing at the lakes and Salt.
> > > > > > Glen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ken Bond wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > HI, My name is Ken Bond... I have been reading for about a
month
> > now
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > figure since I sent out a quick e-mail yesterday about scatter
> > shields,
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > better say hello. (side note... consensus on the scatter
shield
> > > > > question
> > > > > > > is NO, it would not pass tech)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm a mid-50's university prof who comes from a Chev
background.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A friend and myself are trying to set a record over 200 in
D/GT.
> > We
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > an 85 Corvette ALL apart and are just getting started on roll
> > cages,
> > > > > etc.
> > > > > > > We will be building a SB 302 engine to power the car as time
> > passes and
> > > > > > > parts can be found/bought.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Our current biggest 'car' issues are Roll Cage and how to put
a
> > > > > non-quick
> > > > > > > change read-end under the back of the car in place of the
> > independent
> > > > > rear
> > > > > > > suspension. Any ideas/suggestions are always welcome.
(Thanks to
> > Ed
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > some comments already in private e-mails)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Our current biggest 'engine' issue is to ramp up the learning
> > curve of
> > > > > "D"
> > > > > > > Chev. engines in general. (Thanks to Keith for a wonderful
phone
> > call
> > > > > > > yesterday). ANY comments/suggestions/ or engine building
> > > > > > > experiences/advice one might like to sent along would also be
most
> > > > > > > appreciated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for all the 'welcomes.' Looking forward to putting
faces
> > to the
> > > > > > > names on the salt.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > KEN
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > * Ken Bond, *
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> > > > > > > * / How much horsepower / *
> > > > > > > * / Can I have and still / *
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> > > > > > > * Internet: *
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