Joe; well that's a concern, although I have worked on lots of twin ignition
engines of large size with plugs on opposite sides of cylinders. Even flown
long distances over water using such a system. I also liked the
Turbo-compound feature of the 3350 Wright Cyclone. Dan is that legal?. Rich
Fox
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Amo <jkamo@rapidnet.com>
To: Richard Fox <v4gr@rcn.com>
Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, October 09, 2000 08:57 PM
Subject: Re: cooling
>Are you trying to create detonation ? Just curious, sounds
>dangerous to me
>Joe ( I can show you how to bend rods) Amo :)
>
>Richard Fox wrote:
>
>> I have been trying to send this for awhile, maybe it will work this time.
>> I'm making chips doing a billet aluminum head for my 32 Plymouth.
Converting
>> back to "L" head. I plan no water jacket mostly because its easier that
way.
>> My thought is there is no exhaust passage in the head and it will have 16
>> fins 1/8 thick by 3/4 tall with 3/8 gaps between them. Any input on this
>> plan, informed or otherwise, is encouraged. Also I will be using two 10
mm
>> sparkplugs one in the normal place next to the exhaust valve and one over
>> the bore. Thought it would be interesting to vary the timing between them
to
>> see what happens. I am sure all of this was done 50 years ago but it
keeps
>> me busy. Rich Fox
>> -----Original MessageCc: land-speed@autox.team.net
>> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
>> Date: Monday, October 09, 2000 05:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: cooling
>>
>> >I don't often weigh in on the tech stuff, but we had Ed Pink give us
some
>> >input to this cooling deal. Ed states that you can't have too much
water,
>> >all nooks and cranies must be filled to avoid any chance of hot spots
which
>> >can lead to detonation. We currently use two 12 volt pumps at the water
>> >tank. The ouput of these pumps feed into a sprint car centrifugal pump
>> >driven off the crank. There is a thermostat in the line also to aid in
>> >keeping the temp constant.
>> >
>> >Dan (real cool) Warner
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
>> >To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; Land Speed List
<land-speed@autox.team.net>
>> >Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 3:13 PM
>> >Subject: Re: cooling
>> >
>> >
>> >> Now here is an interesting bit of info: A good standard water pump
flows
>> >> about 100 gpm, a NASCAR pump flows 180 gpm. The best electric pump I
have
>> >> found flows only about 30 gpm.
>> >> So now if your flow starts off at thirty gpm it ain't gonna be
anywhere
>> >near
>> >> close to the 35 gpm needed at the exit point.
>> >>
>> >> John Beckett, LSR #79,
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
>> >> To: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; "Land Speed List"
>> >> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
>> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 9:12 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: cooling
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > On your Recommendation I spent an hour on the phone yesterday with
Carl
>> >> > Adams... of Adams Pumps..
>> >> >
>> >> > Carl is a LSR fan... and a Nascar Cooling specialist... it was a
>> >> fascinating
>> >> > conversation and I look forward to hanging out with him on the
28th....
>> >> >
>> >> > He was saying what we needed was a Minimum of 35 gallons of Flow per
>> >> Minute
>> >> > and that the Water Must in fact Flow through all the Block.. not
just
>> >the
>> >> > Front... Back cylinders are often stagnant.... He was a BIG FAN of
>> >> > Thermostats.... saying they need to be VERY HIGH.... like 190 or
so....
>> >he
>> >> > wanted the Water Temp to be in the 210 range to Make Power... saying
>> >there
>> >> > was 80hp difference in one of his applications between 160 and 210
>> >> > degrees...
>> >> >
>> >> > His other Big Comment was that the Pump needed to be Measured not at
>> the
>> >> > Pump but through the Block.... at the outlet.... anything else is
just
>> >> > guessing at what the actual flow through the restrictions really
is...
>> >> >
>> >> > I can't remember all the conversation but like you John... I was
very
>> >> > impressed with the guys knowledge of Cooling.
>> >> >
>> >> > Keith
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
>> >> > To: "Land Speed List" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
>> >> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 8:14 AM
>> >> > Subject: cooling
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > > OK, thought I would give Keith a break and start a new thread.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > My big question is how important is the cooling system to HP? and
>> >> > longevity?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Have had several problems with melted pistons over the years. And
I
>> >> > thought
>> >> > > they were due to none cooling related problems (probably were).
But
>> >now
>> >> I
>> >> > > wonder if the cooling system was of a better design whether the
>> >pistons
>> >> > > would have ultimately melted (or at least melted as quickly).
>> >> > >
>> >> > > So (on a SB Chevy) how much water flow (gpm) is required for
proper
>> >> > cooling?
>> >> > > Can you have to much flow?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > What's the preferred pump: belt driven or electric? How much HP
does
>> a
>> >> > belt
>> >> > > driven pump use vs. an alternator to drive all the electrical
>> >> accessories.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Should you run a thermostat? and at what temp? or just a
restrictor?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Is it better to design a LSR cooling system based on Drag Racing
or
>> >> > NASCAR?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > What's up with reverse flow systems? don't see many in grass roots
>> >> racing.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > John Beckett
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