The nice thing about the Pacer Dave is that your can run it either direction
(forward or backward) with the same result. Does that constitute a class
change?
John Beckett
----- Original Message -----
From: "dahlgren" <dahlgren@uconect.net>
To: "Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>
Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: New Category
> If this makes any sense at all and maybe it does i would think that cars
> that came stock with EFI and all the related controls ought to be able
> to run them.. With the apparent great love of retro tech would it be
> more sensible to either make the year break earlier or to allow whatever
> technology that was stock on the car to reamin although not necessarily
> the stock part. lets not get into NHRA type stuff where you can only run
> a certain carb and by the same token if you can run any carb can't you
> run any kind of EFI.. I would not want to have a 1980 factory hot rod
> and then have to strip all the standard fuel and ignition stuff out to
> race it nor would i want to have to police whether it is stock or not...
> .maybe 1969 or so is a better choice of years in the first place.
> Typically this is before electronics were common in the first place.
> along these lines where does my AMC Pacer fit?? I have the one with
> the optional Willys twin turbo F-head engine and two carter YF carbs?? I
> am running the standard save-a-spares all the way around to help with
> the gearing...can i remove the 8-track and cup holders to save weight
> although for such a long race the music would be nice to have too and
> you can get pretty thirsty at times too so a tough trade off..
> Dahlgren
> Dan Warner wrote:
> >
> > Here it is!
> >
> > Included in this email is the proposal for the new CATEGORY which will
break
> > the current Modified Category classes by year. This proposal will create
a
> > new category between the existing Vintage and Modified Categories. The
body
> > year break will be 1949 to 1981 inclusive.
> >
> > Note that the engine breaks are restrictive as the new category will
deal
> > with AMERICAN coupe and sedan bodies only. There will be no Competition
> > Coupe classes. The reasoning is that competition coupe rules are very
> > liberal and the choice of body is a personal issue. All other rules in
the
> > category will be the same as the current Modified category as far as
aero,
> > engine swaps, transmission, etc.
> >
> > You have the opportunity to cast a vote as to the degree of mechanical
> > sophistication in this new category. The name of the category is not yet
> > decided. You also have the chance to name this category through a
contest
> > administered by Jon Amo on his web site www.landracing.com.
> > When choosing your name for the category please be aware that our class
> > naming convention is laborious at best. An example would be: XXO/BACFAlt
(AC
> > = American Classic). Lets not make the class name longer than the
vehicle.
> >
> > Please distribute the proposal to your buddies who may not be internet
> > savvy. This is an unprecedented opportunity to take part in the process.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Dan Warner
> >
> > Southern California Timing Association 2001 Rule Book Proposal
> >
> > The following sections are recommended rules changes to add the
"Nostalgia
> > Category" into the new 2001Rule Book.
> >
> > Purpose:
> > To split the Coupe/Sedan car classes using newer aerodynamic cars (1982
to
> > present) from the older less aerodynamic cars (1949 through 1981). This
> > change
> > will make the older cars more competitive and still allow the newer cars
to
> > compete amongst themselves. All old records will be re-established and
> > those records set by newer cars will stay with them in the current
Modified
> > Category classes. Here is an example; John Rain's car (1989 Indy 500
> > Pontiac) record of 274.5 MPH for D/PS will stay with him in the current
> > Production Category class, but in the newly established Nostalgia
Category,
> > Ron Hall's car (1963 Avanti) old record of 195.6 MPH will be re-entered
into
> > the record book for D/NPS class. This way no one looses a record and the
old
> > records are reinstated. Carefully read the two options in the Nostalgia
> > Category and vote your
> > opinion on the spaces provided. The two options are; Option 1A or 1B on
one
> > subject and Option 2A or 2B on the other subject, you must vote for one
of
> > the two choices for each option. Also, vote for or against the proposal
of
> > adding the new Nostalgia Category to the 2001 Rule Book.
> > The goal is to have every race car owner in the Coupe or Sedan class
vote on
> > these changes. The race car owners voting can be those who race at
> > Bonneville, the Dry Lakes, Maxon or all venues. Each race car owner
> > will have one vote on the outcome of this consideration of rule changes.
> > Its important that all owners vote and mail their results to Bob Sykes
Jr.
> > by no later than November 1, 2000. At that cutoff date, the ballots
will be
> > tallied and the results will impact on what changes go into the
Southern
> > California Timing Associatation Rule Book for the year 2001. So please
> > don't sit on this, study the changes then vote and mail your results
ASAP!!
> >
> > NOSTALGIA CATEGORY
> > The Nostalgia Car category will consists of American coupe or sedan
cars
> > from 1949 through and including 1981.
> > Note: the "N" has been added to the following categories to indicate
the
> > Nostalgia Car Class.
> > .
> >
> > NOSTALGIA FUEL ALTERED COUPE - /NBFALT, /NFALT
> > NOSTALGIA GAS ALTERED COUPE - /NBGALT, /NGALT
> >
> > Engine classes allowed are:
> > AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO, XXF, XXO, and V4.
> >
> > NOSTALGIA GAS COUPE and SEDAN - /NBGC, /NGC
> >
> > Engine classes allowed are:
> > AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO, XXF, XXO, and V4
> >
> > NOSTALGIA PRODUCTION COUPE and SEDAN - /NPRO
> >
> > Engine classes allowed are:
> > AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO, and V4.
> >
> > .
> > NOSTALGIA SUPERCHARGED PRODUCTION COUPE and SEDAN - /NPS
> >
> > Engine classes allowed are:
> > AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO.
> >
> > NOSTALGIA CATEGORY
> >
> > (Option #1A, EFI is allowed)
> > (Option #1B, EFI is not allowed)
> >
> > (Option #2A, computer controlled ignition timing is allowed)
> > (Option #2B, computer controlled ignition timing is not allowed).
> >
> > VOTING FORM FOR COUPE/SEDAN CAR OWNERS
> >
> > OWNER'S NAME: print name ___________________________________
> >
> > OWNER'S SIGNATURE: ___________________________________
> >
> > DATE VOTED: ___________________________________
> >
> > HOME ADDRESS: ___________________________________
> >
> > ___________________________________
> >
> > PHONE NUMBER ___________________________________
> >
> > CAR'S CLASS & ENTRY #: ___________________________________
> >
> > LAST RACE ENTERED: ___________________________________
> >
> > ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF THE NOSTALGIA CATEGORY?
> >
> > YES _____
> >
> > NO _____
> >
> > VOTE FOR ONE ON OPTION #1
> > OPTION 1A
____
> > (YES, EFI)
> > (Electronic
Fuel
> > Injection) or
> > OPTION 1B
____
> > (NO, EFI)
> >
> > VOTE FOR ONE ON OPTION #2
> > OPTION 2A
____
> > (YES,CMPTR )
> > (Computer
> > ignition timing) or
> > OPTION 2B
____
> > (NO, CMPTR)
> >
> > "AFTER YOU'VE VOTED SEND THIS LAST PAGE TO:"
> > Bob Sykes Jr. (Coupes & Sedan Committee Chairman)
> > 6815 Scott Circle,
> > Cypress, California 90630 Any questions, call Bob at home (714)
527-6907
> >
> > email: Dan Warner - dwarner@electrorent.com Bobby Sykes Jr.
> > drylakes207@yahoo.com
> >
> > Please vote by November 1, 2000 so the Southern California Timing
> > Association can make a count of the votes.
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