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WHATS A MATTA HERE??!?!!?

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Subject: WHATS A MATTA HERE??!?!!?
From: "Doug Anderson" <boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:58:16 GMT
Hey folks;

         Been havin’ some serious  “startin” problems with Boogie Woogie 
lately…….   Why would my 332"  327 with 10-1 compression...act like "the 
battery was low" and grind over, you know like a typical chevvie thats got a 
"hot starter motor"???  something like; GRRuhhhhhh, GRRuhhhh, GRRuhhhin,  
GRRuhhhinn, Grinnddddd.....

..…it all started last weekend really....and can be downright embarrasin' at 
times it can.   The whole setup in Boogiewoogie has 16,000 on it now.   All 
was new or rebuilt when she was finished -except the 1 1/2 yr old battery.   
All was right with the world until last week.  As of this writing I have 
replaced the starter with another rebuilt BIGBLOCK one, and bought a brand 
new   75 month    990 cold cranking amps   battery from NAPA…..to the tune 
of about a hunnert an’ a ‘quata for the two….OW.   -on my Collegggg 
allowance.  OW.

       It ain’t no better boys.   WHAT GIVES?????     HELP !!?!!?


here's what were'r workin' with;

332" motor 10-1 compression;  327 Chev 1966 block and ported 1.94intake,    
461 heads

Comp Cams hydraulic  285 degree, 490 lift  rumpity cam
(she maintains 17 " of vacuum during a coast condition at highway speeds...)


A "stock" Chev point distributor circa 1966-69; with "the door."
-inside is Mallory all the way.   (brass contact cap & rotor with 5000mi. 
on'em?)


Ignition is by MSD 6A box and coil.  Points serve only as trigger.      
Dwell 29-30
Vacuum advance hooked up normally, runs off manifold vacuum port on OFFY 3x2 
intake.     Best quality MSD  ‘spensive 8.8mm wires are used.    And 
Autolite 303 plugs. –whiht maybe 3000 miles on them?

Timing is set pretty normally. -Though I've always been a little perplexed 
as to WHY the marks never really seemed to be where they should when it is 
running good -and boy does she ever run GOOD!  lotsa power.  Just always 
timed’er by “by ear” and did fine.    Been doin’ it that way all my life it 
seems like!    Decent fuel mileage  (14-16.5 mpg with  a 3.5 rear gear at 
freeway speeds…) even with the cranky three deuces.   Which are run 
progressively.     No matter what I've tried it always runs generally rich 
-gets to your eyes at traffic lights with no hood on.  -It runs and idles a 
bit differently every time it's used on a different day....-responsive all 
all get out though, and LOTS of fun.   Just ask the regular “citizens” and 
the tailgating jerks in their Beemas’ ,  Mitsu’s,  and Infinities….


Jeesh, I’ve  tried quite a few things….but I’m stumped with this.
                                              -Boy do I ever dealing with 
HATE  “electronics” problems.

Can anybody here give me a clue fellas?    I  sure need to try to get’er 
fixed by Thursday night as I need to take it on a 4-500 mile trip Friday 
mornin’  .   And  I GOTTA have TOTAL reliability for every start….

One thing I tried was to remove the coil wire and  try cranking it over –and 
she spins over freely like it ought’a   -but with the wire back in place, it 
labors.   -making you wonder if it will or if it won’t.    You know?      
That tells me “timing”    -so I checked….and it was right where it always 
is.   Checked down low without vacuum, and at about 2500-3000 for total.     
And she runs  like a bear when she is running, -and slows normally as you 
retard the spark and raises again as you advance it at idle…..  normal 
stuff.

When cranking and it’s straining, if you give it a squirt with the gas 
pedal, whoom! She starts!   -USUALLY.     I’d say the ol’ MSD box is doin’ 
it’s job to fire it off at such a low RPM crankijng speed.

So if that’s working fine,  and the timing is reasonably right,   the 
starters “new” and so’s the Battery,    WHAT NEXT?


ANY IDEAS greatly appreciated boys.   I’ll be back online in the late 
morning.   Oh,  I forgot to say that I’ve had the new NAPA battery on 
trickle charge since 10 am because it did not show a “full” charge when the 
counterman checked it this morning when I purchased it.     I did try 
starting the beast once before putting it on the charger (2 amp) and it 
acted about the same as it did before; with a slooooow grunting, begrudging 
start….    however, that said,     could it be     just co-incidence         
  that because it was down a bit it would act that way too?   (like the old 
battery did)      Like maybe when I get home in an hour from Colleggg all 
will be right with the world again????    Naw I did’nt think so either…..

Aw Hell, boys        What gives?????


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