I didn't ever get into either one of these motors, just went
strait from Model As to a 55 chev, But there is one thing I don"t understand
here. So everyone seems to agree that the flatheads beat up on the Jimmy's
in the 50s, so what changed the situation? I can understand the Wayne head
advantage, but we aren't talking that here are we? Is this just an
advantage that showed up on the Salt, seems like they both blow up just as
readily as each other. I'm not beating up on either motor, I love seeing
them on the Salt, especially in roadsters, Just curious.
I'd also like to apologize to anyone I may have offended here.
We need to recognize that most of us don"t know one another. The recipient
can't see that twinkle in your eye when you make a tongue and cheek remark
like he can when you are face to face. If you are fooling around chiding
someone make sure you let them know you are just fooling around. If you
aren't fooling around and are actually attacking someone, it has no place
on here. We all come from different backgrounds and the only thing we all
have in common is that we all dig the sounds that a hot motor makes. So
lets be constructive and helpful with one another, no put downs okay.
Yours L. Kvach Butters
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
To: Finishline Coatings <lona@finishlinecoatings.com>; <ARDENDOUG@aol.com>
Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: flatheads & GMC's
> Hey RM,
> I too started at the same time you did, also with
> a stove bolt in a town full of flatheads. I
> eventually became president of our hot rod club -
> only one other stovebolt ever showed up. Through
> all those early years, I never beat a flathead
> beyond first gear with my chev. I guess I envied
> them and that's why I got into flat motors at
> this stage in my life. They had such a neat sound
> - - although my old Chev blasting through a
> home-made split exhaust manifold with a pair of
> Smithys and two 2" cast iron sewer pipes (my dad
> was a contractor) had a very unique song of it's
> own.
>
> Dick J
>
> --- Finishline Coatings
> <lona@finishlinecoatings.com> wrote:
> > Well Doug, I went back over my e-mail several
> > times to see what I had
> > said that warranted the put-down from you. I
> > expected to get the kind
> > of answers that I did from Mike in LA and Dick
> > J., but not a put-down.
> > Sorry if I offended you, I won't let it happen
> > again as I learned a long
> > time ago that if I'm going to be offensive to
> > someone and be frustrated
> > in the process, that it's best that I don't
> > become involved with
> > them...so I'll be gone.
> > But let me share with you a couple of things
> > before I go.
> > Fifty years ago when I got my first car in
> > 1951, it was a 48 chev, 6
> > cyl. I have had a love affair with sixes ever
> > since. I lived in a town
> > that had 10 flat motor powered hot rods for
> > every six cyl. Even the
> > local
> > car club was dominated by flat head powered
> > cars. The name of the club
> > was the "Head Hunters"! The club plaque was in
> > the shape of a finned
> > Ford flathead. Needless to say, I took a lot
> > of ribbing being the only
> > 6 cyl. guy in town, far from the fastest but
> > definitely the loudest!
> > (With split manifold and straight pipes) Well,
> > to this day that good
> > natured rivalry still exists. The guys I run
> > with still tease me about
> > having only 3/4 of a v-8 and I tease them right
> > back about it taking
> > them 8 pistons to do the job of 6 and all the
> > other clichés that go
> > along with racing. Since 1964, I've followed
> > the flat motors and sixes
> > at B-ville. Having friends that were running on
> > the salt since sixty, I
> > finally started building my car in 1967. It's
> > been a long journey,
> > every single piece of this car I built with my
> > own two hands-except for
> > the front wheels,tires, engine block & head and
> > 3rd member and some
> > other parts-like the fire bottles, etc. This
> > doesn't make the car any
> > better than yours, or anyone else's. It's what
> > I chose to do. I even
> > ran it on the drag strip for several years
> > before getting it done enough
> > to run on the salt. Finally made it to B-ville
> > in 9/98. First pass at
> > 116 mph. Four passes later, we managed to go
> > 125. I was in heaven!! The
> > times didn't really matter. After 32 years of
> > working on the car, I
> > finally got there. That same year, I got to go
> > to El Mirage in
> > November. Three runs later, we got it up to
> > 138 mph. Finally felt like
> > I was learning how to make the injection work.
> > Got to go to Muroc last
> > year and got it to 150 for 4 passes. Went to
> > B-ville last year and the
> > best was 138. Then I managed to make it run
> > slower every pass!!..that's
> > life. But if you re-read my e-mail, you will
> > find that this is what I
> > said... "It does not matter how fast I go, it's
> > about having fun with
> > people that enjoy the same thing that I enjoy."
> > Last year, my son, Cedric, drove the car and
> > this year my daughter wants
> > to drive and try to get Ced's record. The neat
> > thing to me is that my
> > kids are getting to enjoy this too.
> > Maybe you just didn't understand what I was
> > saying. I don't know..but it
> > won't happen again cause I'm gone.
> > I wish you the best of luck in your racing,
> > Doug, and to all those going
> > to Muroc - drive safely but have fun and go
> > fast.
> > RM
>
>
> =====
> .............................
> ..........Dick J.............
> ......(In East Texas)........
> ..........# 729..............
> ........Roadsters............
> .Hemis and Flatheads Forever.
> .............................
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