land-speed
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: Rear steering

To: john robinson <john@engr.wisc.edu>, Ed Van Scoy <edvs@idt.net>
Subject: Re: Rear steering
From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:58:54 -0700 (PDT)
So, what if you don't put the fin on the roof,
but hang it out the back more like a rudder on a
boat?

Dick J
--- john robinson <john@engr.wisc.edu> wrote:
> Howdy,
>           I think the problem that might occur
> is either too much or too 
> little input from the fin, too little will do
> nothing, and too much may tip 
> the vehicle over...
> 
> 
> At 10:39 AM 5/25/00 , you wrote:
> >Why stop there? Do like Breedlove & add a fin
> on the roof that moves with the
> >steering input (wheel) and helps to turn the
> car with air pressure.
> >Ed
> >
> >
> >"Hyatt Engineering Ltd." wrote:
> >
> > > OK, how about if I steer with both the
> front and rear wheels, and 
> > propel the
> > > car with neither (middle wheel drive, see
> the attachment) !
> > > The rationale is:
> > > Directional stability is maintained by the
> front and rear wheels if the
> > > middle driving wheels are spun or locked up
> > > The wheelbase is lengthened without the
> usual compromise in chassis
> > > stiffness associated with the extreme span
> from front to rear wheels in the
> > > conventional arrangement
> > > The engine (most of the mass) is far
> forward, and the center of aerodynamic
> > > pressure is rearward so it is self
> correcting and inherently stable at 
> > speed
> > > The drivers tank is at "zero energy state",
> with the engine, fuel, battery
> > > and other sources of potential energy in
> the other tank
> > > The loading of the steering wheels
> (relative to the driving wheels) is to a
> > > considerable extent adjustable by jacking
> them without moving the center of
> > > gravity
> > > I call the steering "telemark" style, in
> that the curve is carved by front
> > > and rear wheels turning in opposite
> directions, just like you do when
> > > downhill skiing on cross country skis (the
> telemark (sp?) technique)
> > > Of course we will never know if it works,
> if it remains illegal.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > > PS John, I was planning on doing this with
> the tanks I bought from you last
> > > year, which turned out to be from the F-84F
> (the USAF museum is just down
> > > the road from me, the ultimate resource for
> such info)
> 
> 
>               John Robinson, Mechanician
>    Mechanical Engineering University of
> Wisconsin
>                  1513 University Ave.
>                   Madison, Wi. 53706
>                      608-262-3606
>                    FAX 608-265-2316
>       Current World Land Speed Record Holder
>                Bonneville Salt Flats
>             H/GCC 92 cu.in. 1980 Dodge Colt
>                  131.333 MPH set 1995
>                  136.666 MPH set 1996
> 
> 


__________________________________________________
Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites.
http://invites.yahoo.com/

<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>