List,
It's interesting that the oxygenated fuels required in California and other
areas (including some counties in Utah) have been found to form contaminants
which accumulate with very serious effects when they leach into groundwater.
The result is that our air is cleaner but the water we drink may kill us.
The hasty enactment of pollution control laws could have a serious polluting
effect on your health. As with the causes of acid rain and other pollutants
we are having to consider an ever widening range of interconnected problems
for all of us. Who knows? We may all be driving cars with fuel cells which
produce hydrogen from water which would emit no tailpipe pollutants but make
the residue from the fuel cell a toxic waste. For an example, the salt
shipped from the Reilly Industries plant to Oregon to be used in recycling
aluminum cans. The salt cake residue from the process is then shipped back
to Utah's west desert to a toxic waste site on the east side of the salt
flats for disposal. Oregon will not allow the now toxic salt cake to be
stored in Oregon even though they benefit from the industry that causes the
toxic waste. Do you recycle parts of your trash like my family does?
Leaves you wondering how much is left unanswered by the environmentalists in
accomplishing their admirable and lofty, stated goals.
Wes
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> From: Jonathan Amo <jamo@uswest.net>
> To: Chris R Harris <yesford@clear.net.nz>
> CC: Joe Amo <jkamo@rapidnet.com>, land-speed <land-speed@Autox.Team.Net>
> Subject: Re: Halon
> Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 21:25:15 -0600
>
>Chris, octane and toxins and the like are definitely arguably linkable to
land
>speed racing, as are halon, nitrous oxide and other groovy ingredients.
Thank
>you very much for your words, about the difference in sunlight between
>hemispheres and the data about the fuel additives, I soak it all up, the
>chemicals, the sun, and the banter on this forum. Joe :) :)
>
>Chris R Harris wrote:
>
>> Joe,
>> very interesting to read your comments, while a little off the LSR
>> subject, good health is important to everyone. I certainly wasn't aware
of
>> ozone holes in times pre man made releases of CFC's. Your brief remark
>> concerning the chemicals used to substitute lead in gasoline I know a
bunch
>> about. Talk about bureaucratic BS. Here in NZ in the governments rush to
>> stay aligned to the 'clean green' image and general International
movement,
>> lead in gas was removed about 5 years ago. The non leaded product now
>> available is in 2 octane ratings, 91 and premium 96. The premium 96
>> contains 49% aromatics added to the base fuel. These so called aromatics
>> are toluene and the like. The resultant combustion of these aromatics
gives
>> an exhaust conservatively 100 times more toxic ( contains carcinogens )
>> than those from the now replaced old leaded gas. I believe there has
never
>> been a proven case of death due directly to lead in gasoline in the past
>> anyway.
>>
>> Chris Harris. NZ.
>>
>> ----------
>> > From: Joe Amo <jkamo@rapidnet.com>
>> > To: Chris R Harris <yesford@clear.net.nz>
>> > Cc: land-speed <land-speed@autox.team.net>
>> > Subject: Re: Halon
>> > Date: Saturday, May 13, 2000 4:07 PM
>> >
>> > I can send you some, as there IS a problem of an enlarged hole in the
>> ozone,
>> > Not convinced though that it is from CFC's and alot of data supports
>> this, many
>> > larger holes have existed long before man according to the science
world,
>> due
>> > to much more powerful natuaral phenomena. I also do not believe in the
>> sins of
>> > leaded fuel, or in the usefulness of oxygenated fuel, or ethanol, all
>> have an
>> > amazing amount of true logical science against them, but cannot
overcome
>> the
>> > bureaucratic bevy of bs.
>> > How is that for opening a can of worms, and another thing the
non-cfc
>> brake
>> > cleaner I used when assembling the top end of my bike, caused an iron
>> toxicity
>> > for me and my crew as we inhaled a mother load of rust after removing
the
>> valve
>> > cover at tech at Bonn., from the miracle ingredient of H20 that was
used
>> in the
>> > "new stuff", the cams looked like they sat out in the rain in SoCal for
>> > years. I cant help it, I just let it out, welcoming educational
>> > banter Joe :) :)
>> >
>> > Chris R Harris wrote:
>> >
>> > > Just a quickie on the Halon subject team. Its being banned or phased
>> out
>> > > because it is ozone depleting. Not to much of a worry in the northern
>> > > hemisphere, but down here in New Zealand and Australia where the
major
>> > > ozone depletion problem manifests itself as a huge hole in the ozone
>> layer
>> > > and getting bigger every year letting in ultra violet sunlight, it is
>> > > having a very real effect on people's health. A week out in the sun
at
>> > > Bonneville is not a great problem taking the usual precautions. Two
>> full
>> > > days of exposure down here will burn the skin right off you without
>> > > protection.
>> > >
>> > > I had a real battle importing my onboard fire system which is the new
>> > > Coldfire 302. Had to produce the reports on all aspects of the
product
>> > > before it was accepted. It is an excellent product and
environmentally
>> very
>> > > safe.
>> > >
>> > > Would all Halon users please send me a hat and burn cream with each
>> refill.
>> > >
>> > > Chris Harris. New Zealand.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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