And remember, you generally have poor air flow past the headers when it is
just sitting there, even with a big fan blowing at the radiator...
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas E. Bryant [mailto:saltracer@awwwsome.com]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 3:19 PM
To: joe boogie
Cc: lsr_man@yahoo.com; land-speed@autox.team.net; av8ford@volcano.net;
tinshed@ozemail.com.au; v8ford@neca.com; jungbec@aol.com;
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Subject: Re: C Motor SO, WHATS AMATTA HERE?
Were the carbs on progressive linkage? Just wondering, if you remember
the factory 3-2 bbl. setups came with a vacuum controlled end
carburetors, no idle circuits, they were designed to run either fully
closed or fully open. I have seen several guys put progressive linkage
on the carbs with poor success. To make them run properly with manual
linkage required the installation of three equal carbs. Even then they
worked best with progressive linkage.
Of course, your situation definitely appears to be a rich condition, the
plugs obviously indicate that as well. As I'm sure you are aware, header
heat is not a good indicator of lean mixture. Often elevated header temp
is because the mixture is still burning as it enters the header, as is
the case in a rich condition with retarded timing. If you aren't already
using a progressive linkage setup, I would advise it. At cruise one carb
is sufficient. Then you may need to rejet the end carbs. For what it is
worth, those are my thoughts on your situation.
Tom, Reding CA - #216 D/CC
joe boogie wrote:
>
> ...just my two cents fellas, but when I fired up ol' boogiewoogie for
> the first time with all settings as they should be, she acted lean as hell
> too! the headers were so hot you could almost see through them!!! BW's
> motor? a.040 over early small journal 327 with about 10.25-1 compression,
a
> lumpity 286degree .490 lift hydraulic Comp Cam, and ported heads, -started
> for the first time on the center rottenchester carb of a 3 deuce setup.
> When the thing cooled enough to look at it, I pulled the plugs thinking
> awful "LEAN" and they were coated with sooty flat black blackie
carbon.....
>
> She's been that way ever since too, even though I've played and played
with
> the jetting! Got 14,000 miles onnit that way, she runs real good, and
gets
> 15-17 mpg on the road WITHOUT O.D. -with a 3.5-1 rear gear.....Go figure.
> Even on the hot interstate for hours on end during the long trek to
> Bonneville and back from New Yawk in August '98 the plugs never really got
> to lookin' as "LEAN" as I would have liked them...dam tree duces annyways"
> HUH boys ?
>
> I've been thinkin' ever since startup, that all that initial heat
on
> the headers was a brandy new motor "feelin' it's pain" whilst breakin'
> in....I got no other explanation for it.
> I do remember having to use a huge industrial fan I had at my
> disposal to keep'er cool enough to run for my first 1/2 hour break-in
> (sitting stationary in the garage) She definitely was HOT at the headers
> while temp read 210 at the gauge. After 3 or 4 run ins she eventually
> "Cooled down" at the headers. Never noticed it like that before with any
> other motors I ever built.
> Thought it was kind'a strange then, an' still do. Dat's m' story an' I'm
> stickin toit.
>
> -Doug Anderson, in exile in New Yawk...you know the rest.
>
> >From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> >To: Tim Schoeny <j82244@fuse.net>, Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
> >CC: "Lawrence E. & Cathy R. Mayfield" <lemay@hiwaay.net>,
> >land-speed@autox.team.net
> >Subject: Re: C Motor
> >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:01:07 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >I encountered this same problem with a racing
> >cycle a few years ago. If athe timing is on,
> >then my guess is it's a little too lean. The hand
> >over the carb supports that too. Make sure the
> >carb doesn't have any dirt in and the jets are
> >flowing what they were meant to flow. If it's
> >clean, possible try some bigger mains.
> >
> >Dick J
> >
> >--- Tim Schoeny <j82244@fuse.net> wrote:
> > > Kieth,could be lean or might have cam
> > > retarded(although wouldn't sound crisp
> > > with retard). Two things I find helpfull in
> > > getting inital setup are an air/fuel
> > > gage and an exhaust temp gage-they take a lot
> > > of the guesswork out of the
> > > process. Good luck.
> > >
> > > Tim Schoeny
> > >
> > > Keith Turk wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well We cranked up the C motor tonight..
> > > Sounds fine but the Headers started
> > > > Glowing... and to be honest I think we were
> > > just to Tired to come up with
> > > > the correct answer as to what our Problem
> > > is....
> > > >
> > > > We double Checked the timing... but I am
> > > still not 100% on it.... and the
> > > > Carb seams to be just fine.... but Maybe
> > > not... didn't see it dumping any
> > > > raw fuel with the Fuel Pump on....
> > > >
> > > > So tomarrow I am going to Re-adjust the
> > > Valves and reset the Timing... I did
> > > > call Doug Odom... and he recommended covering
> > > the Carb with a Hand and
> > > > seeing if that Brought the Temps Down.... and
> > > it Does...so that is
> > > > encouraging...
> > > >
> > > > The Motor is Really Crisp.... so Basically
> > > it's something Simple.... Who
> > > > Knows... Hey anyone want to Hazard a Guess?
> > > >
> > > > Keith
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Lawrence E. & Cathy R. Mayfield
> > > <lemay@hiwaay.net>
> > > > To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 4:02 AM
> > > > Subject: Anybody Live close to ...
> > > >
> > > > > I am moving to the Las Vegas area this
> > > summer or before. Are any of the
> > > > > list members in that locale?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > mayf
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > L.E. Mayfield
> > > > > 124 Maximillion Drive
> > > > > Madison, Al. 35758-8171
> > > > > ph: 1-256-837-1051
> > > > >
> > > > > http://home.hiwaay.net/~lemayf
> > > > >
> > > > > lemay@hiwaay.net
> > > > >
> > > > > Sunbeam Tiger, B9471136
> > > > > Sunbeam Alpine Bonneville Land Speed Racer,
> > > > > '66 Hydroplane Drag Boat (390 FE)
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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