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Re: Salt Flats Issue

To: "\"\\\"LandSpeed\\\" Louise Ann Noeth\"" <lanspeed@west.net>
Subject: Re: Salt Flats Issue
From: Ed Van Scoy <edvs@idt.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:14:28 -0700
Not to mention Chambers of Commerce in Wendover, SLC etc.......
Ed


\"LandSpeed\" Louise Ann Noeth wrote:

> George
>
> I could kiss you. You explained, in minimum "legal beagle" jargon, the
> precise danger potential posed by theses groups. They KNOW that some of the
> claims are baseless from the onset, but also know that due process can be a
> very effective stall tactic.
>
> My initial investigation into the matter has revealed they are VERY
> organized and very effective group. We would be poor stewards of our our
> sport to ignore them.
> Thanks for jumping in.
>
> I believe, at minimum, we ought to get as many folks as are so inclined to
> jot a few lines about why they go to Bonneville, the amount of cash they
> leave in Utah during that period and how many years they have been doing so.
>
> I am inclined to hit the Governor, BLM State Director, and various and other
> sundry organizations and governmental agencies.
>
> "LandSpeed" Louise Ann Noeth
>
> LandSpeed Productions
> Telling stories with words and pictures
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Mitchell <americanpartner@yahoo.com>
> To: LandSpeed Louise Ann Noeth <lanspeed@west.net>; Land Speed
> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, March 23, 2000 7:31 AM
> Subject: Re: Salt Flats Issue
>
> >Hey there list,
> >I have hesitated to to speak up on this kind of stuff
> >but have decided to go ahead and do so .
> >I am a lawyer and I live and work in DC. I don't
> >practice or go to the courthouse (to keep my sanity).
> >sometimes I am hesitant because lawyers often get a
> >bad rap and they often deserve it . The problem is
> >that if you went ot law school you tend to get lumped
> >in with the bad guys through guilt by association. I
> >worked my way through school doing something that I
> >love which is working on cars and racing them and I am
> >proud of the fact that I can chat about legal issues
> >with  one group and gear ratios with another.
> > Nuff Said.
> >
> > I think it is important to remember that
> >environmental groups throughout the country could
> >definitly screw up our summer with the right
> >motivation. With due cause and "impact study" could
> >close races down until proper evidence is gathered
> >that could lead to no conclusions at all. In the
> >meantime , the salt could be closed to everyone
> >waiting for some geologists to compile a series of
> >papers on the matter.
> >
> >Although it is true that this might not be an imediate
> >danger, the forces against us are certainly not going
> >to let us know that they are in motion. They will
> >simply act . A simpathtic judge could ruin a summer
> >for sure .
> >
> >Will something of this magnitude happen? I seriously
> >doubt it . Should you still prepare ? Sure .
> >Think of all of those who benefit from the races
> >economically and let tham know that this is a
> >possibility. That means organisations like The Utah
> >Tourism Board ( or whatever is applicable ), The Hotel
> >/Motel Assoc, the local Chamber of Commerce, etc--
> >whoever would stand to lose by the closing of the salt
> >to motor traffic.
> >
> >Recently I saw 60 Minutes 2 and there was a story
> >about ranchers who were being put out of business
> >because environmentalist had forced the reintroduction
> >of the Grey Wolf into the territory close to thier
> >ranches ( Wow , that was an awful sentence). I am sure
> >that these rancher never saw it coming either. Not
> >until it was too late . Now they are just trying to
> >catch up.
> >
> >My 2 cents still only cost 2 cents. That's what makes
> >me different.
> >
> > George in DC
> > The Hemi Porsche Guy
> >"Mixing '50s technology with '70s inadequacy to ad my
> >name to the history books "
> >
> >
> >--- "\"LandSpeed\" Louise Ann Noeth"
> ><lanspeed@west.net> wrote:
> >> This is from the www.suwa.org site
> >>
> >> If they're AGAINST this bill, you'd better make your
> >> voices heard
> >> FOR it . . . let's hope this VERY well organized
> >> group never turns its focus
> >> on the salt.
> >>
> >>
> >> "LandSpeed" Louise Ann Noeth
> >>
> >> LandSpeed Productions
> >> Telling stories with words and pictures
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> H.R. 3605 (The San Rafael Not-So-Swell Bill)
> >> continues to move through the
> >> House of Representatives, so we remain on RED ALERT
> >> status.
> >>
> >> Please call before Thursday if your Representative
> >> is listed in item (1)
> >> below.  Now is a great time to become more active.
> >>
> >>      * If your Representative is one of the
> >> subcommittee members listed in
> >> item (1) below, please make that call, and then
> >> double your
> >> effectiveness by getting friend to call also.
> >>
> >>      * If your Representative is not listed in item
> >> (1), see item (3).
> >>      (You'll also get a chance to call your
> >> representative later, as the
> >>      bill moves to the full committee and then the
> >> House floor.)
> >>
> >>
> >> (1) What To Do
> >> (2) Background on H.R. 3605
> >> (3) Letters Needed on Wide Hollow Reservoir
> >>
> >>
> >> (1) What To Do
> >>
> >> The Representatives we need to contact are the
> >> members of the House National
> >> Parks and Public Lands Subcommittee:
> >>
> >>      Republicans
> >>
> >>      1.  Mr. James Hansen, UT-01, Chair
> >>      2.  Mr. Elton Gallegly, CA-23
> >>      3.  Mr. John Duncan, TN-02
> >>      4.  Mr. Joel Hefley, CO-05
> >>      5.  Mr. Richard Pombo, CA-11
> >>      6.  Mrs. Barbara Cubin, WY-At Large
> >>      7.  Mr. George Radanovich, CA-19
> >>      8.  Mr. Walter Jones, NC-03
> >>      9.  Mr. Chris Cannon, UT-03
> >>      10. Mr. Rick Hill, MT-At Large
> >>      11. Mr. Jim Gibbons, NV-02
> >>      12. Mr. Mark Souder, IN-04
> >>      13. Mr. Don Sherwood, PA-10
> >>
> >>
> >>      Democrats
> >>
> >>      1.  Mr. Carlos Romero-Barcelo, Puerto Rico, RM
> >>      2.  Mr. Nick Joe Rahall, WV-03
> >>      3.  Mr. Bruce Vento, MN-04
> >>      4.  Mr. Dale Kildee, MI-09
> >>      5.  Mrs. Donna Christian-Christensen, Virgin
> >> Islands
> >>      6.  Mr. Ron Kind, WI-03
> >>      7.  Mr. Jay Inslee, WA-01
> >>      8.  Mr. Tom Udall, NM-03
> >>      9.  Mr. Mark Udall, CO-02
> >>      10. Mr. Joseph Crowley, NY-07
> >>      11. Mr. Rush Holt, NJ-12
> >>
> >> (If you're not sure who your Representative is, you
> >> can type in your ZIP
> >> code at http://www.congress.org/ and find out.  But
> >> please DON'T rely on the
> >> "send message" option at that site.  E-mail messages
> >> to Congress carry
> >> almost no weight -- letters and phone calls are the
> >> effective way to reach
> >> them.)
> >>
> >> If you think your member of Congress doesn't listen
> >> to you on
> >> environmental issues, call them anyway.  We want
> >> even the bad guys to know
> >> just how hard we're going to fight this thing.  We
> >> also want them to know
> >> just how much support there is for designating
> >> wilderness.
> >>
> >> REMEMBER:  The only hope we have of stopping this
> >> bill is if members of
> >> Congress hear opposition from large numbers of their
> >> constituents -- this
> >> means you!
> >>
> >> Since the Subcommittee mark-up session is this
> >> Thursday (March 23,
> >> 2000), we need everyone to phone their
> >> representative -- letters won't
> >> get there in time, and e-mail is not an effective
> >> way to influence
> >> Congress.
> >>
> >> To phone your Representative:
> >>
> >>     (i) Call the Capitol switchboard at (202)
> >> 224-3121.
> >>
> >>     (ii) Ask for Representative YYYY's office.
> >>
> >>     (iii) When you reach the receptionist at the
> >> office, ask to speak
> >>     with the aide who deals with environmental
> >> issues.  (If that aide is
> >>     not available, you can leave a detailed message
> >> with the
> >>     receptionist.)
> >>
> >>     (iv) Tell the aide that you are a constituent
> >> (mention the town
> >>     you're from), and ask them to oppose H.R.
> >> 3605/S. 2048, because
> >> (1)
> >>     it fails to designate any wilderness at all, (2)
> >> it leaves the wild
> >>     San Rafael Swell region open to continued
> >> destruction by off-road
> >>     vehicles, and (3) it lops off and leaves out
> >> important wilderness
> >>     units in the San Rafael Swell.  Urge the
> >> Representative to attend the
> >> mark-up session on Thursday.
> >>
> >> If you learn anything interesting during your call
> >> (whether they have
> >> received other calls on the issue, whether they seem
> >> interested, etc.),
> >> let us know at AlertList@suwa.org .
> >>
> >>
> >> (2) Background
> >>
> >> On Thursday of this week, the House National Park
> >> and Public Lands
> >> Subcommittee, chaired by our very own Rep. James
> >> Hansen (R-UT), will amend
> >> and report a piece of legislation in a process
> >> called "mark-up." That bill
> >> is H.R. 3605, "To Establish the San Rafael Western
> >> Legacy District," and
> >> H.R. 3605 is as anti-wilderness as it gets.
> >>
> >> H.R. 3605 takes your public lands, lands in the San
> >> Rafael Swell
> >> administered on our behalf by the Bureau of Land
> >> Management, and makes them
> >> a county recreation area almost exclusively for the
> >> benefit of noisy,
> >> destructive off-road vehicle use.  Off-road vehicles
> >> are the Number 1 threat
> >> to the integrity of the San Rafael Swell's key
> >> geologic and biologic values.
> >>
> >> Not only does H.R. 3605 make a mockery of land
> >> protection, but it gives to
> >> Emery County up to $10 million of your tax dollars
> >> to promote the very kind
> >> of destructive activities that ought to be prevented
> >> by
> >> Congress.
> >>
> >> Emery County wholeheartedly supports this
> >> legislation.  And why not?
> >> H.R. 3605 establishes a local advisory board,
> >> ironically called a
> >> "Legacy Council," that the Secretary of Interior is
> >> required to consult
> >> in preparing a plan for how the land is to be
> >> managed.  In other words,
> >> the bill essentially transfers control of our public
> >> land - land that
> >> you and I own - to local folks who have been the
> >> most vitriolic in their
> >> opposition to protecting wilderness.
> >>
> >> What's good about this bill?
> >>
> >>
> >=== message truncated ===
> >
> >


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