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Re: Aero Question

To: "Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>
Subject: Re: Aero Question
From: Wester S Potter <wspotter@jps.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:09:29 -0700
Dan, list,
I had an interesting visit with the owner of Flatfire last fall at the Art
City Trolley restaurant in Springville, UT.  He blames the handling problems
on relocation of tanks for fluids.  They took lots of weight off the front
and put it on the back of the 'liner, ... bad decision according to him. 
During the rebuild going on now, they will return things to their former
locations.
Wes
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> From: "Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>
> To: "george mitchell" <americanpartnerinrussia@erols.com>
> Subject: Re: Aero Question 
> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 05:41:55 -0800 
> 
>I don't claim to be an aero specialist but I do know that the Flatfire
>streamliner flew at the last Speedweek with the bottom of the nose 1/2"
>higher than the rear of the car. There also was no covering over the
opening
>at the bottom of the car when the enclosed front wheels were removed  to
>mount the exposed axle and wheels. This could have been the contributing
>factor to the lift at speed. I have seen two lakester designs where the
>front wing is raised F1 style. A person whose opinion I respect has said
>that this type of nose design is not compatable to our style of racing. I
>would think the difference between the F1 nose and Indy nose is due to air
>management down the sides and under the car, partial ground effects vrs.
>full flat bottom.
>
>Dan W
>----- Original Message -----
>From: george mitchell <americanpartnerinrussia@erols.com>
>To: <V4GR@aol.com>; <lemay@hiwaay.net>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>;
><jyturbo@onelist.com>
>Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 12:37 PM
>Subject: Aero Question
>
>
>> Hey there list ,
>> The Porsche made some progress this wekend .  The front end is off and I
>> have started measuring and laying out the steel for the new frame. By the
>> way I am using .134 M/S  to be safe on the rules . (plus I had some ).I
>need
>> to get a hydralic attachment for my bender --- its a pain.
>>  Anyway , I was I was looking at some pictures of some cars out there and
>> most of them (door cars) slope way down at the front in what I assume is
>to
>> reduce frontal area .
>>  Here is my question. Formula one cars are slick and smooth and R& D'ed
>out
>> in the wind tunnel and they seem to bulge up in the front . This I know
is
>> to get the air up and over the driver's compartment and to make it hit
the
>> rear spoiler as quickly as possible . Remember I am talking about F1 not
>> Indy cars . Indy cars seem to slope down in front . Does anyone know why
>the
>> difference?
>> Since I am leaving it a full cockpit (chopped but not roadster)I was
>> thinking that to get the air over the windshield and onto the
>> spoiler --experimenting with a slightly raised sheetmetal nose to try and
>> get it done .  ---without increasing frontal a lot ( My front track is
>going
>> to be 45 inches so it might be about  the same as a wider slope nose --
ya
>> know?)
>> Has anyone tried this with any success ? I would appreciate the lists
>input.
>>  George in DC
>>
>> Also , there were not any negative  reactions  to the for sale listing
>> . ---I have to finish up another project.
>> I am looking for as complete a changeover to four speed for a 68-72 A
body
>> GM. Pedals , Tranny ,clutch , shifter, etc. I am looking for a wide ratio
>> but a close will do . It is going in a Buick so saginaws will break
coming
>> out of the driveway  so muncies or better would be great. Finishing this
>> sucker and selling it will get me to the salt quicker .
>>  Please emal me off list americanpartnerinrussia@starpower.net
>> Thanks
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <V4GR@aol.com>
>> To: <lemay@hiwaay.net>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>;
<jyturbo@onelist.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 11:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: BIG Turbo Questions
>>
>>
>> > Sounds like a turbo I have that came from a n 8:92 Detroit. If you like
>> the
>> > Turbo you would love the blower. Makes a 6:71 look like kid stuff. 
Rich
>> Fox
>> >
>>
>



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