Now this is an interesting way to kill yourself..How much does the
safety equiptment cost? A helmet drivers suit fire system and suitable
cage and tires?
Dahlgren
Keith Turk wrote:
>
> Yet again I am fascinated with the varied opinions on a single topic... Okay
> so this Class isn't for everybody.... (not even for me) but I am willing to
> keep an open Mind and allow others to express their opinion....
Read here!
> Grass Root Motorsports the Magizine is doing a series of exactly that....
> Semi Claimer or Minimum Buck's deal.... I think there is a $1500 Limit....
> and they run in three venues... staight line road course and a car show.....
> the point they are making is that the automotive Hobby doesn't have to be
> expensive... and I agree.... it depends on the venue you chose and in our
> cases the class you choose to run in.....
>
> Pick the fastest Piston driven Vehicle deal..... it's not going to be
> Cheap.... but then you look at what Say Rich Fox brought to Bonneville
> this year or what Chuck Runs at Maxton.... those are PURE hot Rodding
> efforts.... or maybe what Dick is going to show up with.... that ain't about
> Money... it's about running a car.... and using your mind to come up with
> better solutions then last time....
>
> Guess my Point is that our goal as Racers is to Preserve and protect the
> Salt and to continue to have fello competitors who are willing to put in the
> effort to be there.... if it takes another class well then so be it.....
>
> Keith Turk.... D / Gas / Altered..... hmmm
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dahlgren <dahlgren@uconect.net>
> To: <Land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 5:10 AM
> Subject: bad ideas and claimers
>
> > a turbo costs 700 to 900 for a cheap one an a real good one is 2000 and
> > a junkyard one is 50 bucks are you serious why not just run the turbo ..
> > What a bunch of whiners....Do you guys all hate change that much? Are
> > you all afraid of the future? Is this the so called pioneering spirit?
> > You seem to have more rules ideas that Nascar Nhra and SCCA all put
> > together.. Who will be the first to suggest restrictor plates? Maybe we
> > could make anyone that we have to run against have to use one and adjust
> > the size to keep them below the record no matter what they do...
> >
> > is this LAND SPEED RACING or NHRA...
> > All I hear is about bringing in new people in to carry the sport on in
> > the future!
> > Did you think for one minute they were CLONES of what had been going on
> > or do not think or have ideas to go faster.. Every one that has all
> > these great ideas to stifle the future ought to be raising money to turn
> > LSR into a museum instead of a place to set records...
> >
> > If you want new people they will come with 1990's ideas they will not be
> > the curator/custodian to your museum.. what about screw blowers how many
> > classes for that or intercoolers how many for that. What a sad state of
> > affairs this is turning into..
> >
> > Hey I have a great idea lets make all the cars 'claimers' like some of
> > the dirt track guys do.. if anyone sets a record you can buy the car for
> > a fixed price lets say 3000.... That would keep the speeds down.. I
> > think at times the thing to do is run for time only is going to be the
> > only way to have any fun with something that is a new and exciting
> > idea..
> >
> > If this seems like a flame it is not .. It is a message of sad
> > desperation from someone that LAND SPEED RACING was what it said and a
> > heads up place where new ideas could be tested and refined, no holds
> > barred just pass the safety and displacement and body style stuff.. The
> > rest is open to creative thinking...Maybe I was wrong...
> >
> > Well I have to get to work.. tuning up a 13b Mazda street engine on the
> > dyno today in NYC.. looking for 600hp with 22 lbs of boost.. with EFI
> > and a TURBO.. if he drove out and wanted to race the car what class you
> > going to put him in AA/GCC ?? What size restrictor plate so he won't go
> > faster that one of the beloved V-8 in your cars??????
> >
> > Dave
> > Dahlgren a weary racer who is having his conception of LSR is
> > trashed...
> >
> >
> >
> > Higginbotham Land Speed Racing wrote:
> > >
> > > I must agree with Ed. Don't change a thing.
> > >
> > > Besides, the really big discrepancy is between positive displacement
> > > blowers and turbos. The horsepower needed to drive the positive displ.
> deal
> > > is put right into the trans input shaft. Wheee!
> > > Now trying to control the fuel mixture on an induction system with
> linear
> > > fuel flow and an exponential boost curve is at least tricky but can be
> > > accomplished without electronics...........just not easily. Ken Walkey
> did
> > > it with a centrifugal supercharger and the fuel flow followed the boost
> > > curve "exactly" according to Ken. The engine certainly ran like the
> mixture
> > > was awfully close. Now maybe he could have gotten a bit more out of it
> with
> > > electronics but there has to be something for the tuner to do (maybe to
> > > his/her detriment though). The deal Ken used could easily be used to
> "fine
> > > tune" the positive displ setups too.
> >
> > read this and think real hard!
> > > So I think that if anything is to be adjusted as a result of
> technological
> > > development it should be in the "boost" category. It could be that turbo
> > > boosted engines advance two displacement classes. Sort of like it used
> to
> > > be in the nostalgic days (whenever that was).
> > >
> > > Thanks for the opportunity to join in the forum.
> > >
> > > Skip Higginbotham in Texas, 9:10 PMCST
> > >
> > > At 08:36 PM 12/8/99 , you wrote:
> > > >I have been following this thread with great interest. My own opinion
> is don't
> > > >change a thing. Besides, what do you do with somebody like me that
> scrapped
> > > >the OEM electonic injection and replaced it with a Holly 4-barrel?
> I've got
> > > >it!! We devise a new class called RETRO for those people that took a
> giant
> > > leap
> > > >backward in technology!!
> > > >Ed
> > > >
> > > >ECTA845@aol.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> It look's like I'll have to side with Doug and John on this one.As
> I
> > > >> slowly work on my Monza for racing I can't not look at the
> electronics that
> > > >> are out there.You can bet if I have the cash to use them to my
> advantage I
> > > >> will.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thank's Randy Williams
> > > >> ECTA # 845
> >
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