Well, you'r right again Dick! Got BEER?
I've been in plenty of these "clubhouse discussions" before an' they allas
end up da' same: "When da' green flag drops th' bull---- stops!"
........Who's makin' th' next Beer run????
Cheers, Doug in NY 5pm edt 12/8
PS: Hi to Bruce F.... ya sure raised some feisty boyz dere.
>From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
>To: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>, land-speed@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: Bench Racing
>Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:45:45 -0800 (PST)
>
>Hey John, ain't this great bench racing though?
>How these discussions get so heated and involved.
> I can just see the dark-paneled interior of the
>clubhouse. Three or four pitchers of beer about.
> A pyramid of empty beer cans on one table, more
>prezels on the floor than in the bowls,
>everything above the six and a half foot mark
>obscured by cigar smoke, and all us guys standing
>around making all these new proposals, shooting
>each other down, and having a great time;
>somebody swearing he could have gotten eight more
>miles per hour out of his car if he had just
>re-jetted, etc, etc, etc. Just peek at the last
>forty messages or so and imagine all those
>conversations going on in this super, LSR,
>bench-racing- clubhouse! I LOVE IT!!!
>
>--- John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
>wrote:
> > I think some people are still missing the
> > point. With a quick count
> > there are over 620 classes now on the
> > books...which includes all the
> > existing Vintage classes. And currently
> > Flathead Fords don't have to run 289
> > OHV Fords, Arduns don't have to run against
> > Hemi's and Buick straight
> > eight's don't run against Chevy V-8's now. So
> > what are we talking about? We
> > don't need to reinvent the wheel here guys. No
> > body is being excluded from
> > LSR.
> >
> > John Beckett
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> > To: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com
> > <dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com>;
> > land-speed@autox.team.net
> > <land-speed@autox.team.net>; bbutters@dmi.net
> > <bbutters@dmi.net>
> > Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 10:48 AM
> > Subject: RE: Electronics vs. old way Nastalgia
> > class
> >
> >
> > >Doug, I think you're missing a subtle point
> > here.
> > > Those were the days when the greatest
> > >breakthrough in automotive history was one HP
> > per
> > >cubic inch. What are production cars doing
> > now 3
> > >1/2 or 4 or even more in decent rice burners
> > with
> > >variable cam timing etc? Some of us just want
> > to
> > >have a place for some of the vintage stuff to
> > >still have fun. I don't think a 300 inch
> > >flathead is going to fare too well against an
> > >electronic injected, computer ignitioned 302
> > >small block do you? Those old Ardun
> > conversions,
> > >finned aluminum flatheads, nail head Buicks,
> > >Y-block Fords with three deuces, 392 Hemis
> > with
> > >dual fours or Hilborns, and straight eight
> > Buicks
> > >ought to have a place to be showcased other
> > than
> > >in magazine articles and museums! Do I feel
> > >threatened - hell no, I'm going to run my
> > >flathead roadster anyway, but it sure doesn't
> > >have much of a chance against a 289 Cobra or a
> > >5.0 Mustang! But that doesn't mean I wouldn't
> > >like to have a place where I could still run
> > in a
> > >competetive race. Don't worry, the old timers
> > >will never threaten the mega buck, monster
> > cubic
> > >inch, electronically sparked, computer
> > controled
> > >cars. I'm sure you'll feel the pinch a little
> > >when your forhead gets longer and your belt
> > gets
> > >bigger and the jet turbine cars, anti-gravity
> > >crusers, and nuclear powered zillion mile per
> > >hour science fiction racers of the future
> > start
> > >to crowd your big block and every other
> > internal
> > >combustion engine into antiquity. If that new,
> > >leading edge, high tech stuff is what is most
> > >important, then NHRA, Indycar, and F-1 events
> > >have a lot of it! I for one, would still like
> > to
> > >see old Novis, Alphas, and Offys run, but they
> > >can't share the track with modern stuff. In
> > LSR
> > >we race one at a time, so anything has a safe
> > >place on the track. There's room for all of us
> > in
> > >LSR and I hope it stays that way.
> > >
> > >
> > >--- dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com wrote:
> > >> youve got to be kidding- a nostalgia class.
> > a
> > >> car with electronic fuel
> > >> injection cant race against a car with
> > >> mechanical fuel injection? a car
> > >> with exhaust thermocouples cant race against
> > a
> > >> car without them ? a car
> > >> with an electronic rev limiter cant race
> > >> against a car without one? - this
> > >> is rediculous - are you guys that threatened
> > by
> > >> some electronics that you
> > >> cannot throw down and race against them? -
> > from
> > >> hearing about the
> > >> "nostalgia" days from my pop, these were the
> > >> days where you raced hardcore,
> > >> with what you had - street or drags- the
> > days
> > >> of the real heads up warriors
> > >> -not worried about what the other guy had
> > under
> > >> his hood ( oh, please
> > >> excuse me -i'm sorry - i cannot race you
> > >> because youve got a new 409 chevy)
> > >> -race to the death ! - victory ! -none
> > of
> > >> this whining crap - if
> > >> the "nostalgia" method is so great - go out
> > and
> > >> show em and kick their a- -
> > >> es instead of sissifying this sport with a
> > new
> > >> "wheelchair" classification
> > >> !
> > >>
> > >> and you know what else, now youre gonna get
> > >> record hunters unplugging their
> > >> oxygen sensors just so that they can grab
> > the
> > >> equivalent record in your
> > >> "nostalgia" class ! -
> > >>
> > >> best regards -
> > >> doug @ black radon engineering
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >=====
> > >Dick J in East Texas
> > > - - ECTA #72 - -
> > > G/FCC - FX/STR
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>=====
>Dick J in East Texas
> - - ECTA #72 - -
> G/FCC - FX/STR
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