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Re: Rotary engines

To: Chuck Rothfuss <crothfuss@coastalnet.com>
Subject: Re: Rotary engines
From: "Thomas E. Bryant" <saltracer@awwwsome.com>
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 10:54:54 -0800
Chuck,
Thanks for the update on the Rotary. My information was a bit ancient
since I was going by what was told us at the time Mazda quit using the
engine in their other cars and trucks. I understand that the rotary was
also used in trucks and outboard engines with success early on. 

I know that they do produce some increditable HP. Some of you may
remember the Mazda sponsored 1993 RX7 three-rotor,three-turbo that ran
C/BMS 1992 was running about 240 MPH before its crash. Another was the
Japanese Team, Blitz Jun Auto-Z, E/BMS that averaged 260.932 MPH at
Speedweek 1991. I'm glad that Mazda does still improve their Rotary,
maybe we will see it make a comeback.

Tom, Redding CA 11 AM PST
    


Chuck Rothfuss wrote:
> 
> ArdunBill, John, List,
> 
>   The rotary fell out of favor more in the US because of Mazda's
> unwillingness to release the engine in anything but an RX7, and it's
> extensive list of patents, which made the engine uneconomical for anyone
> else to produce.  Then they priced the RX7 out of most mortals reach, and
> had gotten a little over their heads with the sequential turbos. (Not
> something you sell the "put gas in it and drive" public.)  Last time I was
> in Japan ('91-'92) there were rotaries in slick two door sedans, large
> (Lincoln Sized) 4 door sedans and the RX7.  The three rotor hadn't reached
> the tiny island of Okinawa yet, but at 450 HP in stock trim I was hoping to
> make another trip after some hit the junk yards.  My priority aboard
> military aircraft has been degraded somewhat since I retired, but I'm
> getting ideas!  ;)
> 
>   Mazda's latest redesign of the Wankel will radically change the exhaust
> port configuration, from a peripherial design to a side port, like the
> conventional intake.  Basically the exhaust will have to go around a corner
> instead of blasting straight out into the header.  This will also allow the
> exhaust to exit from two sides of the rotor, so a much more gradual exit can
> be achieved.  This will allow fuller combustion and soften the exhaust note
> considerably.  The possibilities for rotary tuners to alter this new design
> are equally exciting, since it will allow greater flexability in where the
> power band begins, and where peak HP will be acheived.  By altering the
> intake and exhaust ports we can change the lift and duration and timing,
> just like your conventional camshaft.  That's the largest thing rotary
> tuners have to play, since we can't easily change the engines displacement
> or compression ratio. (Although there are several compression ratios
> available for turbo and non turbo applications.)  There is little to limit
> the port size or configuration as long as you keep all the internal engine
> parts from falling out through the holes.  Naturally, some ports work better
> than others, but the engine can be tailored to the task.
> 
>   Yep, an altered rotary without all it's factory emission gear is a bit
> dirty, but even in the 240 HP range my street driven 13B will get 21 MPG on
> the highway.  I get something like 4 MPG at Maxton.  The latest RX7's and
> the earlier (second generation) RX7's were fuel injected and were pretty
> clean burning.  Mazda had reduced the oil, which is injected into the rotor
> housings to lubricate the seals, to almost nothing.  Older engines have this
> oil injected into their carburetors at a rate of about a cc per minute.  New
> seal materials being tested by Mazda may eliminate the need for any oil
> injection, further reducing emissions.  The rotary is also the engine with
> the greatest potential for running on alternative fuels, since there are far
> fewer parts to corrode or which must be sealed.  Don't write the little
> round engine off just yet.  Remember, this is an engine whose design was
> created, and certainly perfected during only the past 40 or so years.  Gotta
> love that rotary sound!
> 
> Chuck "deaf as a post" Rothfuss
> ECTA
> Pole Cat Hollow, NC
> 
>

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