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Re: Snorkels?

To: "Gary & Bonnie LaRonge" <laronge@myhome.net>, <kturk@ala.net>,
Subject: Re: Snorkels?
From: "Dale & Evelyn Thomas" <bikerschoice@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 05:24:28 -0400
List,
    The fast Japanese motorcycles have used pressurized airboxes (snorkles)
for years. The basics are to turn the air twice (smoothes it ), and
obviously , seal the airbox. Does not really work untill approx 120mph.
Whitehorse press had a book on turbos & superchargers that go into the
mechanics and theory of it. It is motorcycle based but the principals are
the same.
     Chief
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary & Bonnie LaRonge <laronge@myhome.net>
To: kturk@ala.net <kturk@ala.net>; Chuck Rothfuss
<crothfuss@coastalnet.com>; land-speed@autox.team.net
<land-speed@autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: Snorkels?


>Keith,
>Now you did it. The whole world knows. Guess you'll have to come up with
>another one and we can keep the lid on it. Right? You ever gotten into the
>number crunching for correct snorkel area? I also spoke to Wilson & Waters
>about that and the guy who did the one on the roadster wasn't around to get
>details from. Terry was going to send me all the stuff but must have fallen
>in a crack...........
>Gary LaRonge
>#552 D/G Alt
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
>To: Gary & Bonnie LaRonge <laronge@myhome.net>; Chuck Rothfuss
><crothfuss@coastalnet.com>; land-speed@autox.team.net
><land-speed@autox.team.net>
>Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 4:44 PM
>Subject: Re: Snorkels?
>
>
>>Don't forget this was the guy who recommended the mechanical blower from
>>the back side of the alternator fan as a Blown set up......
>>
>>Wait .... you can't tell me it isn't mechanically driven by the engine and
>>it does produce boost above ambient conditions when installed in the air
>>cleaner.... Sure don't say how effective your blower set has to be does
it?
>>
>>Nevermind.... giving away all our speed secrets Gary....
>>
>>Keith
>>
>>----------
>>> From: Gary & Bonnie LaRonge <laronge@myhome.net>
>>> To: Chuck Rothfuss <crothfuss@coastalnet.com>; land-speed@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: Snorkels?
>>> Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 5:50 AM
>>>
>>> Chuck, If you can get in touch with Terry Moreau (Spokane, WA) , I know
>>he
>>> has all the necessary equations. I talked to him about it two years ago.
>>He
>>> mentioned that if not done properly, it can hurt as much as help. Sounds
>>> real scientific to me..............right up Keith's alley.
>>> Gary LaRonge
>>> #552 D/Gas Alt
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chuck Rothfuss <crothfuss@coastalnet.com>
>>> To: land-speed@autox.team.net <land-speed@autox.team.net>
>>> Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 9:14 PM
>>> Subject: Snorkels?
>>>
>>>
>>> >Fellow Racers, Designers and Aerodynamicists,
>>> >
>>> >  I've seen odd looking snorkels (is there a better term?) sticking out
>>the
>>> >front of a variety of land speed cars.  There are several excellent
>>> examples
>>> >of them in the latest issue of Bonneville Racing News, sticking out the
>>> >front of roadsters grills.  Chuck Salmen's beautiful Sum Fun roadster
>>was
>>> >the one that really caught my eye, since it's seems to protrude the
>>> >furthest.  I'd imagine that this is to take advantage of less turbulent
>>air
>>> >ahead of the grill, right?
>>> >  My car, being about as aero as a brick may also benefit from
something
>>> >like this now that I'm relocating my engines intake from the cowl to
the
>>> >front end of the car.  I was surprised to see a 6 MPH change in speed
at
>>> >Maxton's HOT June meet when the top of my fresh air box came off during
>>two
>>> >runs. (duct tape quickly cured that!)  I'm not sure if it was the
cooler
>>> air
>>> >from outside the engine compartment that the engine liked or the slight
>>ram
>>> >air effect from the cowl fed system, but whatever it was it worked.
Now
>>I
>>> >want to optimize the air intake system and was wondering if anyone had
>>done
>>> >any experimenting with forward facing snorkels of varying lengths?
>>> >
>>> >Chuck Rothfuss
>>> >Lots of ideas, no time and less money!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>


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