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Re: [Healeys] Clutch Master Cylinder/Clutch Slip Saga

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch Master Cylinder/Clutch Slip Saga
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> uUHE1BGbXYu5p7raOkvGaQzgRa4BaM+SPGj1UcIGIcudsUqumObX45lXzeabGLC/FZqiYKV6ImfAiHwC9BIwsOEKlN31KQ+91fk=
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 06:48:18 -0700
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Both the clutch and brake master cylinder--Moss, at least, sells the 
same part for both, and they're on sale--is just a piston that pushes 
fluid to the slave cylinder. It has a rubber seal that eventually wears 
and can be replaced. That's it; pressure is relieved when you lift your 
fit and the piston retracts. Both the brake and clutch MCs have a 
spring-loaded non-return valve--sometimes called a 'foot valve'--at the 
end of the pushrod which is essentially a small piston; it opens when 
the pedal is lifted and allows the reservoir to replenish fluid as the 
clutch or brake wears and closes as soon as the pushrod moves inward. It 
it wears or gets damaged the clutch/brakes will not function properly. 
See part# 79 here:

https://mossmotors.com/ahy-035-clutch-100-6-3000

Soooooooo ... what's the story: "(Non-standard rod. Long story)." Were 
you involved?


Bob

On 6/23/2024 5:52 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>
> With reference to the slipping clutch &/or overdrive, I do believe 
> thatitis fixed. Said that before and it let me down again. But, this 
> time, I had it done professionally by a local team that Iâ??d never used 
> before.
>
> Anyhow, after my wasting a lot of time and some money checking 
> everything and getting nowhere, these guys said thatthe rod in the 
> clutch master cylinder was too long and theyâ??d had to reduce itâ??s 
> length. (Non-standard rod. Long story). So,apparently the pressure 
> wasnâ??t being allowedto bleed back/out and the slave cylinder remained 
> pressurized etcetc.
>
> Now, if that sounds like amuddle, it is and thatâ??s because Iâ??ve never 
> delved into or fully understood the workings of the clutch master 
> cylinder.(Which is why I never thought of it during the whole affair. 
> But nor did anyone else).I know itâ??s not just a simple pusher, like a 
> bicycle pump, but thatâ??s really all. I googled it and looked into my 
> yearsâ??worth ofcollected files of advice and wisdom. But nothing found.
>
> Can someone just explain how the thing works so I can understand what 
> was going on?I should like to close the whole chapter and move on���..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
>
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    Both the clutch and brake master cylinder--Moss, at least, sells the
    same part for both, and they're on sale--is just a piston that
    pushes fluid to the slave cylinder. It has a rubber seal that
    eventually wears and can be replaced. That's it; pressure is
    relieved when you lift your fit and the piston retracts. Both the
    brake and clutch MCs have a spring-loaded non-return
    valve--sometimes called a 'foot valve'--at the end of the pushrod
    which is essentially a small piston; it opens when the pedal is
    lifted and allows the reservoir to replenish fluid as the clutch or
    brake wears and closes as soon as the pushrod moves inward. It it
    wears or gets damaged the clutch/brakes will not function properly.
    See part# 79 here:<br>
    <br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="https://mossmotors.com/ahy-035-clutch-100-6-3000";>https://mossmotors.com/ahy-035-clutch-100-6-3000</a><br>
    <br>
    <span lang="en-gb"><font face="Times New Roman"> Soooooooo ...
        what's the story: "(Non-standard rod. Long story)." Were you
        involved?<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        Bob<br>
      </font></span><br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/23/2024 5:52 AM, Simon Lachlan via
      Healeys wrote:<br>
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      <p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-gb"><font face="Times New Roman">With
            reference to the slipping clutch &amp;/or over</font></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"><font face="Times New Roman">drive, I do believe
            that</font></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"> <font
            face="Times New Roman">it</font></span><span 
lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"> <font
            face="Times New Roman">is fixed. Said that before and it let
            me down again. But, this time, I had it done professionally
            by a local team that Iâ??d ne</font></span><span 
lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"><font
            face="Times New Roman">ver used before. </font></span></p>
      <p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-gb"><font face="Times New Roman">Anyhow,
            after my wasting a lot of time and some money checking
            everything and getting nowhere, these guys said 
that</font></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"> <font face="Times New Roman">the rod in the
            clutch master cylinder was too long and theyâ??d had to reduce
            itâ??s length. (Non-standard rod. Long story). 
So,</font></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"><font face="Times New Roman"> apparently the
            pressure wasnâ??t being allow</font></span><span 
lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"><font
            face="Times New Roman">ed</font></span><span 
lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"><font
            face="Times New Roman"> to bleed back/out and the slave
            cylinder remained pressurized etcetc.</font></span></p>
      <p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-gb"><font face="Times New Roman">Now,
            if that sounds like a</font></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"> <font
            face="Times New Roman">muddle, it is and thatâ??s because Iâ??ve
            never delved into or fully understood the workings of the
            clutch master cylinder.</font></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"><font
            face="Times New Roman"> (Which is wh</font></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"><font face="Times New Roman">y I never thought of
            it during the whole affair. But nor did anyone 
else).</font></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"><font face="Times New Roman"> I know itâ??s not
            just a s</font></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"><font
            face="Times New Roman">imple pusher, like a bicycle pump,
            but thatâ??s really all. I googled it and looked into my 
years</font></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"><font face="Times New Roman">â??</font></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"><font face="Times New Roman"> worth of</font></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"><font face="Times New Roman"> collected files of
            advice and wisdom. But nothing found.</font></span></p>
      <p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-gb"><font face="Times New Roman">Can
            someone just explain how the thing works so I can understand
            what was going on?</font></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"> <font face="Times New Roman">I should like to
            close the whole chapter and move on���..</font></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span></p>
      <p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-gb"><font face="Times New 
Roman">Tha</font></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"><font face="Times New Roman">nks,</font></span></p>
      <p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-gb"><font face="Times New 
Roman">Simon</font></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span><span lang="en-gb"></span><span
          lang="en-gb"></span></p>
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