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I agree with Bill.
I installed the DW steel gasket in about 2003 and 60K so or miles ago when
I also put in upgraded internals and the DW alloy head, etc. I have not
removed or retorqued the head since then. In the last year or so a very
slight coolant weepage (I can't even call it a leakage) developed on the
right side of the head/block joint between cylinders 2 and 3 when
starting from cold, which quickly disappeared on warm-up.
My main complaining symptom is a reduction in oil pressure both hot and
cold from about 65/30 psi at warm revs and idle to no more than 40/15 psi
commensurate. Though I renewed the oil pump and replaced the few bearings I
could with the engine in situ a few years back this was of little effect.
I know there are those who say that oil pressure is overrated and our
Healeys can live happily without it but I'm a bit on the compulsive side
and can't keep my eyes on the road and off that needle, so off with her
head, and more as over the winter the engine is being disassembled and line
bored, the crank and internals crack-checked and refreshed as necessary,
etc.
Though the DW steel gasket is supposedly reusable I am, with reckless
abandon, going to install the unused spare steel head gasket which has lain
under the boot Armacord in its original packaging for the last 20 years. I
feel the car has given me good and reliable service over these many miles
and has earned the right to demand this splurge on my part.
More news as it happens--Michael Oritt
On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 6:38=E2=80=AFAM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com>=
wrote:
> I recommend the MLS gasket that Denis Welch supplies. It requires a very
> smooth finish, but if you can get that it provides a very good seal. I ha=
d
> the chronic problem of a leaky head gasket on my 100 And their gasket
> solved it.
>
> Bill Lawrence
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of
> jvwojcik@comcast.net <jvwojcik@comcast.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 7, 2024 10:41 PM
> *To:* 'Roger Grace' <roggrace@telus.net>; 'Healeys' <
> healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
>
>
> Hi Roger, If your current fix fails, no need to despair. After a 10 year
> chase to stop oil from getting into the coolant in my BN7 using multiple
> head gaskets and the Southern Carburetor drilling kit, etc., Hardblok
>
> https://www.hardblok.com/
>
>
>
> did the job perfectly. Attached is an image of where my builder put it,
> rolling the block to place the product where he deduced the seepage came
> through. In this specific use, I do not think there was much change in he=
at
> transfer. It worked for years, then I sold the car but suspect it is stil=
l
> doing the job. Jim Wojcik, MN
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Roger
> Grace
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 7, 2024 2:41 PM
> *To:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
>
>
>
>
>
> Up date.
>
> So re-torqued head. Only one nut moved 3/4 turn. Added some of that Barrs
> leaks to coolant. Rigorous oil change (cooler too)
>
> After 425 mi on new oil had another analysis done and pains still glycol
> present.
>
> Now have head off.
>
> Nothing really obvious.
>
> Suggestions where/what to look for ?
>
> Plan to take head to a machine shop for truing.
>
> Thoughts
>
> rg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Roger Grace* <roggrace@telus.net>
> Date: Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 8:15=E2=80=AFPM
> Subject: Glycol in oil
> To: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>
>
>
> 67 BJ8
>
> Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.
>
> Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve cove=
r
> and near oil filler.
>
> Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr
>
> Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi
>
> Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting no
> water found ... assume gets burnt off ?
>
> Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently
> installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being
> removed. Silly me.
>
> So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit area
> that others may have encountered ?
>
> Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?
>
> Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.
>
> Remove head ?
>
> Thoughts and ideas please
>
> rg
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I agr=
ee with Bill.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:=
#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I i=
nstalled the DW steel gasket in about 2003 and 60K so or miles ago when I a=
lso put in upgraded internals and the DW alloy head,=C2=A0etc. I have not r=
emoved or retorqued the head since then.=C2=A0 In the last year or so a ver=
y slight coolant weepage (I can't even call it a leakage) developed on =
the right side of the head/block joint between cylinders 2 and 3 when start=
ing=C2=A0from cold, which quickly disappeared on warm-up.</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D""><font color=3D"#3333ff">My main complaining=C2=A0symptom =
is a reduction in oil pressure both hot and cold from about 65/30 psi at wa=
rm revs and idle to no more than 40/15 psi commensurate. Though I renewed t=
he oil pump and replaced the few bearings I could with the engine in situ a=
few years back this was of little effect.=C2=A0 I know=C2=A0there are thos=
e who say that oil pressure is overrated and our Healeys can live happily w=
ithout it but I'm a bit on the compulsive side and can't keep my ey=
es on the road and off that needle, so off with her head, and more as o</fo=
nt><font color=3D"#0000ff">ver the winter the engine is being disassembled =
and line bored, the crank and internals crack-checked and refreshed as nece=
ssary, etc.</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D""><font color=
=3D"#0000ff"><br></font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#=
3333ff">Though=C2=A0the DW steel gasket is supposedly reusable=C2=A0I am, w=
ith reckless abandon, going to install the unused spare steel head gasket w=
hich has lain under the boot Armacord in its original packaging for the las=
t 20 years.=C2=A0 I feel the car has given me good and reliable service ove=
r these many miles and has earned the right to demand this splurge on my pa=
rt.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">More news as it happens--=
Michael Oritt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 6:38=E2=80=AFAM WILLIAM B LAWRENC=
E <<a href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.com";>ynotink@msn.com</a>> wrote:<br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit;backgroun=
d-color:transparent">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit;backgroun=
d-color:transparent">
I recommend the MLS gasket that Denis Welch supplies. It requires a very sm=
ooth finish, but if you can get that it provides a very good seal. I had th=
e chronic problem of a leaky head gasket on my 100 And their gasket solved =
it.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit;backgroun=
d-color:transparent">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit;backgroun=
d-color:transparent">
Bill Lawrence</div>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id=3D"m_-6423530773537065730divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"C=
alibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b>=
Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of <a href=3D"mailto=
:jvwojcik@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">jvwojcik@comcast.net</a> <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:jvwojcik@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">jvwojcik@comcast.net</=
a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 7, 2024 10:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Roger Grace' <<a href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">roggrace@telus.net</a>>; 'Healeys' <<a href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net=
</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">
<div>
<p><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hi Roger, If your current fix fails=
, no need to despair.
<span>=C2=A0</span>After a <span>10 year</span> chase to stop oil from gett=
ing into the coolant in my BN7 using multiple head gaskets and the Southern=
Carburetor drilling kit, etc., Hardblok</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href=3D"https://www.hardblok.com=
/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.hardblok.com/</a></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">did the job perfectly. Attached is =
an image of where my builder put it, rolling the block to place the product=
where he deduced the seepage came through. In this specific use, I do not =
think there was much
change in heat transfer. It worked for years, then I sold the car but susp=
ect it is still doing the job. Jim Wojcik, MN</span></p>
<p><span>=C2=A0</span></p>
<p><span>=C2=A0</span></p>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p><b><span>From:</span></b><span> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bo=
unces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&=
gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger Grace<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 7, 2024 2:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"=
_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil</span></p>
</div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Up date.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>So re-torqued head. Only one nut moved 3/4 turn. Added some of that Barr=
s leaks to coolant. Rigorous oil change (cooler too)</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>After 425 mi on new oil had another analysis done and pains still glycol=
present.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Now have head off.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Nothing really obvious.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Suggestions where/what to look for ?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Plan to take head to a machine shop for truing.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Thoughts </p>
</div>
<div>
<p>rg</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p>---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>
From: <b>Roger Grace</b> <<a href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">roggrace@telus.net</a>><br>
Date: Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 8:15=E2=80=AFPM<br>
Subject: Glycol in oil<br>
To: Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
>healeys@autox.team.net</a>></p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<p>67 BJ8</p>
<div>
<p>Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve cov=
er and near oil filler.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting no =
water found ... assume gets burnt off ?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently inst=
alled a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being removed. Si=
lly me.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit area=
=C2=A0 that others may have encountered ?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=C2=A0Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Remove head ?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Thoughts and ideas please</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>rg</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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